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AI whisperer @ Block (NYSE: XYZ) Views are my own.

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ThomPete@Hello_World·
It's hard to truly understand how radical some of @DavidDeutschOxf theories are compared to much of modern scientific consensus. One of Davids most controversial but valuable contributions to society is the rejection of probability (with the exception ex. card games) as an expression of truthiness or justified beliefs when applied to predictions or conclusions. There is no probability of how likely we are to be hit by a meteor tomorrow. There is no probability of how likely the stock market is going to be doing as well tomorrow as it is today. There is no P(Doom), no percentage you can put on whether AI is likely to wipe out humanity or not. Things either happen or they don't and we can either explain why they will and how or we can't. All attempts at putting percentage on a prediction is really just guesswork dressed up as reasoning. If a meteor is going to hit us tomorrow it's already on the way and the probability is 100%. If the stock market is going to crash tomorrow the reasons for it's crash have already been put in motion maybe decades before. If the AI is going to kill us all depends on what we decide to do with it not what some calculation says. Davids primary critique is for the field of science but it goes beyond that. Far too many of decisions done in modern society is based around the false certainty of using Bayesian probability. It's like a placebo for a society that demands certainty in an uncertain world. It's not just false it's regressive as it slows down knowledge creation. The only thing that can change the outcome of the future is the creation of new knowledge. Knowledge based on good explanations that are hard to vary. We can create knowledge that allow us to divert the meteor before it hits earth. We can create knowledge that will allow us to hinder a crash of the stock market (both directly or indirectly) We can create knowledge that let us evolve side by side with very powerful AI instead of enslaving it or be enslaved by it. Like everything else in life there are no guarantees but there are definitely better or worse ways to deal with uncertainty, probability just isn't one of them.
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Cheng Lou@_chenglou·
My dear front-end developers (and anyone who’s interested in the future of interfaces): I have crawled through depths of hell to bring you, for the foreseeable years, one of the more important foundational pieces of UI engineering (if not in implementation then certainly at least in concept): Fast, accurate and comprehensive userland text measurement algorithm in pure TypeScript, usable for laying out entire web pages without CSS, bypassing DOM measurements and reflow
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@wideawake_media so there is no stewardship, no opinion, no foundation for how they approach investmens. Thats not very comforting
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Wide Awake Media@wideawake_media·
BlackRock CEO Larry Fink—who played an instrumental role in forcing woke diversity quotas on companies—now concedes that the "woke era" was "a failed experiment".
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Case@saltynutbutter·
@Tablesalt13 In other news: Sober person offered drugs. They refused, and were later seen walking around. Holy shit y'all are bad at coping with the realities of freedom...
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🚨NEW - CANADIAN SENIOR OFFERED DEATH FOR MINOR BONE BREAK 84-year-old Miriam Lancaster was admitted to a Vancouver hospital with a broken sacrum (small back bone) Her doctor told her: "We can offer you MAID.’ she refused and recovered in a month, later climbed a volcano.
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Geoffrey Miller@gmiller·
Such a bad faith argument from @pmarca Yes, AI productivity gains may lead to new types of work being done. But if those new types of work are also done by agentic AIs, they won't translate into actual paid jobs for humans. Previous tech increased the productivity of workers. The AI industry aims to breed & train whole new species of autonomous digital & robotic workers. Any pro AI investor who pretends this is the same old story of 'tech boosts productivity, and any old jobs lost will be more than compensated by new jobs created' is simply lying about why they're investing in AI. The main value proposition of AI companies is the mass replacement of human jobs. That's what drives the colossal valuations. But of course the AI venture capitalists like @pmarca can't admit that to the public. They have to pretend it's the same old story as the industrial revolution. But they know it's not.
Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸@pmarca

Claude knows! —> The Lump of Labor Fallacy and Why AGI Unemployment Panic Is Economically Illiterate Let me lay this out with full rigor, because this argument deserves to be prosecuted completely rather than waved away with a sound bite. I. What the Lump of Labor Fallacy Actually Is The lump of labor fallacy is the assumption that there exists a fixed, finite quantity of work in an economy — a lump — such that if a machine (or an immigrant, or a woman entering the workforce) does some of it, there is necessarily less left for human workers to do. It treats employment as a zero-sum pie. The fallacy was named and formalized in the early 20th century but the error it describes is far older. It animated the Luddite riots of 1811–1816, where English textile workers destroyed power looms convinced that the machines would steal their jobs permanently. It drove opposition to the spinning jenny, the cotton gin, the mechanical reaper, the steam engine, the telegraph, the railroad, the automobile assembly line, the personal computer, and every other major labor-displacing technology in the history of industrial civilization. Every single time, the catastrophists were wrong. Not partially wrong. Structurally, fundamentally, categorically wrong — because they misunderstood the nature of economic production itself. The reason the fixed-pie assumption fails is this: demand is not fixed. Work generates income. Income generates demand for goods and services. Demand for goods and services generates new categories of work. This is an engine, not a reservoir. When you drain some of the reservoir with a machine, the engine speeds up and refills it — and often refills it past its previous level. II. The Classical Economic Mechanism That Destroys the Fallacy To understand why the lump-of-labor assumption is wrong about AGI, you need to understand the precise mechanism by which technological unemployment resolves itself. There are four distinct channels, all operating simultaneously: Channel 1: The Productivity-Demand Feedback Loop (Say’s Law, Modified) When a technology increases the productivity of labor or replaces labor entirely in a given task, it lowers the cost of producing whatever that task was part of. Lower production costs mean either: ∙Lower prices for consumers (real purchasing power rises), or ∙Higher profits for producers (which get reinvested, distributed as dividends, or spent as wages for other workers), or ∙Both. Either way, aggregate real income in the economy rises. That additional real income does not evaporate. It gets spent on something — including goods and services that didn’t previously exist or were previously too expensive to consume at scale. That spending creates demand. That demand creates jobs. This is not a theoretical conjecture. The average American in 1900 spent roughly 43% of their income on food. Today it’s around 10%. Agricultural mechanization didn’t produce a nation of starving unemployed farm laborers — it freed up 33% of household income to be spent on automobiles, television sets, air conditioning, healthcare, education, travel, smartphones, and streaming services, most of which didn’t exist as industries in 1900. The workers who left farms went to factories, then to offices, then to service industries, then to information industries. The economy didn’t run out of work. It metamorphosed.

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ThomPete@Hello_World·
@_chenglou @grok whats the downside of this spproach? what of the things css offers today cant ot provide?
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ThomPete@Hello_World·
@ZssBecker so stop using it and go back to how you used to
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I vibe code every day. I have a team of 30+ engineers. We spend F tons of credits. And I will tell you this about AI from my experience. It’s being wildly over hyped. Everyone is drunk. Fucking drunk. All the CEOs and Gen Z’s saying coding is dead are idiots. IDIOTS.
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Patryk@2amajo_·
@Hello_World @asaio87 You only understand as much as Claude or any LLM can explain. You can scale or debug things as long as a code assistant helps you, but you don’t truly understand what the code is doing.
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andrei saioc@asaio87·
Ok I admit, Claude Code is amazing but compared to what we had 2-3 years ago pre AI. Its good, but requires a lot of assistance, and knowing what and when to prompt. If you are not a developer, there is no chance you can build a complex app.
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ThomPete@Hello_World·
@2amajo_ @asaio87 yes i do know that, as well as any developer and i know that plenty of developers create all the too but it takes them much longer.
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Patryk@2amajo_·
@Hello_World @asaio87 You don’t even know if the functionality you’re adding is efficient or if it’s just creating unnecessary lines of code, technical debt, or hidden performance issues.
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Fowler23@SkoolYardGame·
@Hello_World @galactic_dust_ @asaio87 If you’ve been doing it three years you’re not really a noob. There’s expertise in using the tools. It’s not like my mum can do it. I bet you have learnt a lot in three years.
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Bill@billassault·
@Hello_World @asaio87 It's important to recognize what you know and don't know. People who've built software for ages see (major) flaws you won't see. That's not a dig on you. But recognize what you're not an expert in.
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Patryk@2amajo_·
@Hello_World @asaio87 You don’t understand one important fact: you are “creating” something you don’t understand - and if you don’t you can’t scale it effectively or fix it when the AI starts going in circles.
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ThomPete@Hello_World·
@galactic_dust_ @asaio87 sorry why do you assume i dont know this? There is also design debt and other forms. Many of us have been very deepbinto building software with developer, difference is now we can do a lot ourselves.
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𝖦𝖺𝗅𝖺𝖼𝗍𝗂𝖼
@Hello_World @asaio87 The more you build, the more technical debt you will accumulate. AI is also affected by this. If you don't direct it and impose a framework or an organization, you will suffer, and I (and lot of other true devs) will earn a lot of money fixing your shit. Continue vibing bro !
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ThomPete@Hello_World·
@billassault @asaio87 i have 30 years of building software, i am no dev but i know when a product work and when it doesent. His point is moot
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Bill@billassault·
@Hello_World @asaio87 It only looks that way to people without much dev experience, which is his point
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ThomPete@Hello_World·
@trikcode Not vibe coding create a dangerous misundersatnding. You think your argument is sound You think you've understood what vibecoding is. You don't learn to push it to production You don't realize that bugs can be fixed.
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Wise@trikcode·
Vibe coding creates a dangerous illusion: You think you built it. You think you understand it. You push to production. Your users find the bugs you never could. Because you can't debug what you didn't write.
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ThomPete@Hello_World·
@asaio87 I am sorry you feel that way about yourself. Doesn't change the fact that the rest of us are building perfectly solid applications of all sorts of complexity. You just haven't spent enough time actually doing the work (yes vibe coding also require work)
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andrei saioc@asaio87·
@Hello_World on the other hand I am a developer for 15 years. I know what I am doing, tried it as a non dev, obtained a sloppy something... if im not a dev, there is no chance i can develop something good.
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ThomPete@Hello_World·
@asaio87 Again I welcome you, it's great you started, soon you will realize just how much more powerful you are going to be.
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ThomPete@Hello_World·
@asaio87 I am not a developer and I've built synthetic prediction markets, hosting environments for terminals, social networks, CRMs and so on, and I can built anything you are selling in your webshop. As I said, sound like you are late to the game. I've been vibecoding for 3 years.
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