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@ItsNxrth @Jasp3r_0 You’re such a fucking geek lmfao

@Jasp3r_0 Stay in your lane Fаggot you already betrayed us

How the fuck did he manage to do this

@hiyukiswife Ears and mouths disappear but not the technology that was invented around its influence*

@hiyukiswife Influence reality in reversing causation and all memory that the specific consumed concept entails. Pochita never retroactively changed timelines. Ears and mouths disappear but not the technology that influenced its creation. Makima forgets devils Chainsaw has fought yet-

Instead of bemoaning “dropped plot lines”, ask yourself why the author may have decided to leave information unconfirmed, or chose to leave a storyline with an ambiguous or “unresolved” ending. It may be your inability to see the author’s vision, not a writing flaw.

@hiyukiswife Can recall events prior to their consumption. Pochita prior to this development erased cause, this erases cause and effect retroactively changing and creating new timelines.

@djaund1ce @new_dangle @beeasyjrizzy @LZIZDunkOnEm @eyeshinto Lmfao

@new_dangle @beeasyjrizzy @LZIZDunkOnEm @eyeshinto “Man…” “you ain bring back shit”

a thread of non black men talking about how fades didnt suit them im crying

@riptroymcclure @hiyukiswife or perhaps the authors usage of open ended storylines is underbaked? misused? out of place? lazy in and of itself?

@LittleScaredy @hiyukiswife sounds like you're lazy

@hiyukiswife I could go on all day trying to correlate how the fuck pochita’s ability worked as it did in the ending but why should I? Fujimoto didn’t even care to give it the setup. You can build up a plot point without compromising its open ended implications.

@hiyukiswife Not quite, I can see the beauty in unanswered questions. But I’m critical of your stance that no matter the lack of effort, buildup, or forethought a plot point is given we’re intrinsically supposed to find meaning in what we’re given. That’s not how this works.

@Aki_K0n @TwltterLuvsNuts @Bot85 @futonchill You’re correct in terms of explaining the ending’s timeline shift, but not how that timeline can exist in the first place. Pochita’s ability never dealt with rewriting time and space, only erasing memory therefore power. The same should logically on paper apply to Pochita.

@LittleScaredy @TwltterLuvsNuts @Bot85 @futonchill I see it a some kind of butterfly effect/grandfather paradox if he creates a world where chainsaw man never existed then the concepts wouldn't be deleted and the timeline would be changed since eating himself could be considered a paradox and something that can be considered[...]

why do ppl ALWAYS want the same damn ending for every manga? if it doesn’t go their way they start throwing tantrums like toddlers

@Aki_K0n @TwltterLuvsNuts @Bot85 @futonchill We could get a better idea if we had context on why pochita eating himself retroactively reverses time and space. But after being given nothing we’re supposed to suspend our disbelief that pochita can just do this for ‘reasons’

@Aki_K0n @TwltterLuvsNuts @Bot85 @futonchill That’s introducing an entirely new unexplored facet of his ability which is the point of the argument. It wouldn’t be wrong to say this part of Pochita’s ability didn’t even exist until Fujimoto wrote hamfisted it in because he didn’t even do the work of building up to it.

@TwltterLuvsNuts @Bot85 @futonchill She speaks in the devil’s effect as past events. She never states the devils effect is erased, only their name. If Pochita’s powers always worked as they did in the ending there would be nothing to “remember” or “recall” it simply didn’t happen.

@TwltterLuvsNuts @Bot85 @futonchill Makima directly states the events surrounding devils/concepts Chainsawman eats still exist in their past effect, simply erasing the causation. Evident with her recalling past events of him fighting them. The ending retcons this and erases cause and effect creating new timelines.

@materialcontext @DonutHackr Agree to disagree though

@materialcontext @DonutHackr But it’s not a classical drama that refrains from explanations. They’re haphazard but exposition composes half of chainsaw man. We can’t pick and choose when to put effort into the intricacies of the story then fall back and say “it didn’t matter anyway”.

This is exactly what Chainsaw Man Part 2 is about It has a wildly different atmosphere to Part 1, and every in-universe attempt to turn it back into Part 1 is either thwarted or met with the characters suffering And readers' biggest critique is that it "isn't like Part 1"

@materialcontext @DonutHackr Second’d I’d refer to is the pitiful excuse of what you can’t even bullshit your way into calling closure for Asa or Yoru’s characters.

@materialcontext @DonutHackr Then think we’re on the wrong page. The context I see “themes and such” being used for is the disregard, backtracking, or retconning of elements of the story in service of prioritizing the thematic narrative of the story. Like say Pochita’s powers not even working how they did.

@materialcontext @DonutHackr It’s very easy to deflect criticism as people incapable of understanding “depth” this is storytelling after all we’ve had this dilemma for centuries. But no, stories shafting characters and canon for thematic purposes doesn’t make it immune to criticism I’m sorry.

@LittleScaredy @DonutHackr Yes and the themes and such meme is wrong, baby brain shit. It's childish cope for not engaging with the work beyond the surface level.

@DonutHackr Personally I don’t dislike Part 2 being within opposition of part 1. Tokyo Ghoul re. Is one of my favorite manga ever after all. But it’s use of the story elements it introduces lack the forethought, care, nor buildup that made part 1 and storytelling captivating.