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Shows an abuser and a rapist "Queer characters make flaws!" HALF OF THEM ARE NOT RACIST, RAPIST OR FUCKING ABUSERS!!! STOP NORMALIZING ABUSE ITS FUCKING DISGUSTING!

@KasaneTetosW1fe That’s not comparable to ChocolateMilk but aight

same for ChocolateMilkDrinkers post and everyone else that does this

People saying this and everything else that Cris has been tweeting is actually so dumb because he’s posted positive stuff before and just because they don like the finale 2 yall are gonna get pissy cause yall are either so negitive or too positive yall cant be a in between or bot

@Kinocha__ @DrunkGenuine @reallifeuzi Another strawman I said I don’t think ‘imprisonment’ accurately describes what’s shown. Something can be tragic, limiting, and sad without being confinement.

@HiHello370083 @DrunkGenuine @reallifeuzi It literally is confinement, she literally can no longer exist as a conscious living existence. Shes cared for sure, but that doesnt mean its a good existence. I dont understand how you cant see its a bad existence. They literally have funerals for and mourn them. They're gone.

STOP INFANTILIZING US. STOP THINKING WE CAN'T BE BAD PEOPLE. STOP ACTING LIKE CLOSETED DYSPHORIA CAN'T BE PORTRAYED AS THE NIGHTMARE THAT IT IS OR THAT IT CAN'T HAVE MASSIVE RIPPLE EFFECTS ON SOMEONE'S MENTAL HEALTH. OH MY GOD YOU GUYS ARE PISSING ME OFF

@Kinocha__ @DrunkGenuine @reallifeuzi My point isn’t that the story accidentally forgot accountability. My point is that ending the story before she confronts her actions leaves the arc feeling incomplete

@HiHello370083 @DrunkGenuine @reallifeuzi I'm saying that wasnt ever the point. Jax killed herself before ever confronting her actions. She never recovered, never forgave herself, was never forgiven, and never gave herself the chance to ask for forgiveness. Her story is full circle a bad ending for her

@Teaflings_ @RayOfFantasy those things aren’t mutually exclusive. My issue isn’t that Jax isn’t a role model. My issue is that I don’t think the character arc is very satisfying if he never meaningfully confronts the damage he caused.

@HiHello370083 @RayOfFantasy Yeah that's the point. Jax is a good character; Jax doesn't exist to be representation or an endearing mascot. The lgbt aspect of denial and masculinity coping mechanisms was interesting and explored, but not for the sake of becoming a rep for a community. Just a good character

I will say it. Queer characters should be allowed to be flawed, to be messy, to majorly screw up. Like any other character in fiction that happens to be straight or CIS. And it's not faulty writing: it's about depicting people with nuance, whether they're LGBTQ+ or not. #LGBT

@WiggerMaggot You’re acting like the only two options are “perfect angel” and “abusive asshole who never takes accountability.” There’s a lot of room between those two.

> Bitches about not getting enough trans representation > gets the most accurate trans representation of all time > bitches about it being too accurate

@MainsSupport A character can be realistic, relatable, and authentic while still being unsatisfying as representation if the story never meaningfully addresses the harm they cause.

May be a controversial opinion from what I'm seeing online but I think Jax is actually good trans representation for what people are actually like when they try to repress instead of accepting themselves. I have been openly trans for about a decade, was on hormones for almost a full year, and one of the best things you can do for yourself when you're like that is meet other openly trans people. And because I've done that, I can confidently say, a lot of repressed trans people, are HUGE PIECES OF SHIT before they come out. I wanna be clear, this is by no means the universal experience, because being trans like being human is not a universal experience. I knew a trans person who before they came out was a huge racist because they fell into the 4Chan trap. I knew a few who were mysoginists and incels before they came out. A lot of repressed trans people have a tendency to fall into bad crowds that feed the worst parts of them. And Jax is a perfect example of what happens when you try to deny, repress, and smother a part of yourself. When you try everything you can to ignore it. To snuff it out. Oftentimes, hurting ourselves hurts the people around us more than we intend to, realize, or even see. I found Jax to be such a fucking refreshing change for trans rep because they weren't the fuckin butt of a bad joke. They weren't some "you had sex with a man" joke or "ladyboy" like I often see in the media or some snowflake "it's ma'am" joke. Jax wasn't some cis character that was YEARS LATER retconned into being trans. Jax wasn't literally a man wearing wearing a tutu or dress like I see in anime. Jax wasn't a femboy or a trap. They weren't sexualized or fetishized. They were just a person, struggling with two parts of themselves that couldn't find common ground. And that is by far, THE BEST TRANS REP I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. They were so relatable and even the parts I didn't specifically relate to, I knew actual people who could and had gone through those phases in their life. Jax isn't bad representation. You just don't know enough trans people to see the parts that resonate with people. And if you still don't believe it, the creator has confirmed it multiple times.

@Lockst3p I’m not talking about whether they’re allowed to exist. I’m talking about how their framing affects interpretation as representation.

@HiHello370083 but im saying that doesn't matter. if we want representation thats both the characters that make small mistakes they can come back from AND the irredeemable monsters.

@TheRatMann_ @PossiblyK9 That’s an assumption about off-screen logic, not confirmed canon. I’m talking about how people are treating speculation as fact

@HiHello370083 @PossiblyK9 I wouldn’t say intentionally and I’m pretty sure he apologized in the final

It feels really dehumanizing as a trans person that “good representation” always as to be the most merry sue shit ever, we always have to be depicted as can do no wrong and any depiction of a trans person being a bad person is “harmful rep” I’m so tired

@jayteehehe @PossiblyK9 that’s not my point. my point is that there’s a difference between “a character is flawed or even harmful” and “a character is defined by sustained extreme harm with no accountability”.

@HiHello370083 @PossiblyK9 Not even intentionally

@QuestionIsPunk1 @PossiblyK9 If I’m missing the point, clarify it. I’m addressing the idea that flawed trans characters automatically count as bad representation, which is what op was talking about.

@HiHello370083 @PossiblyK9 Can trans people not be bad people?

@porkchopreturnz @PossiblyK9 My point is that there’s still a difference between a flawed character and one defined by sustained harm with no accountability, and I think people sometimes conflate those two when discussing representation.

@HiHello370083 @PossiblyK9 TRANS PEOPLE CAN BE AWFUL HUMAN BEINGS???

@QuestionIsPunk1 @PossiblyK9 My point is that there’s still a difference between a flawed character and one defined by sustained harm with no accountability, and I think people sometimes conflate those two when discussing representation.

@SOL__T_Amo_Dayn @Ilovesunburnn @RayOfFantasy You’re treating assumptions about off-screen events and thematic meaning as facts of the story, and I’m separating what’s explicitly shown from what we’re inferring. We’re not going to agree if we don’t separate those two.

@HiHello370083 @Ilovesunburnn @RayOfFantasy 1. Es obvio, Leeroy no viviría felizmente si su madre estuviera muerta (ya estaría en la carcel), ni lo niegues denuevo. 2. No es muerte pero si es una alegoria al suicidio (¿O como Pomni pudo interactuar con Jax a pesar de haber "muerto" segun tu?) Solo repites lo mismo.

@DumbMarina @RayOfFantasy A character can be allowed to be terrible and still have the narrative engage with their actions in a meaningful way. My issue is that it feels like that engagement isn’t really there, not that the character is ‘required’ to be redeemed.

@HiHello370083 @RayOfFantasy And the show clearly doesnt want to be the second case, queer characters still can be horrible people and die being horrible people

@Lockst3p @RayOfFantasy I’m not saying they can’t be flawed. I’m saying the degree and framing of those flaws can still matter for how the character reads as representation.

@HiHello370083 @RayOfFantasy this isnt about comparing faults i think the point is let the trans rabbit be a terrible person. some people are calling Jax a "bad trans rep "because of the stuff they do, but trans characters should be able to fill the roles of good, and horrible characters.

@LexaCola1 @purgatis Strawman argument I’m not claiming trans people or trans characters can’t be flawed or even terrible. I’m talking about whether the narrative meaningfully engages with those flaws, not whether they’re allowed to exist.

@HiHello370083 @purgatis “Awful people don’t exist, trans people are incapable of being evil and fucked up”

*Names every quality of a trans repper* “Worst representation ever”

@Kinocha__ @DrunkGenuine @reallifeuzi I’m saying the words ‘imprisoned’ or ‘self-imprisonment’ don’t really match what’s shown if she’s being cared for and supported by the others. You can absolutely interpret her condition as tragic or limiting, but that’s different from describing it as confinement.

@HiHello370083 @DrunkGenuine @reallifeuzi And she's still forever changed and will never get to live like and with the rest of them ever again. Just because shes a little comfortable in her eternal self imprisonment doesn't mean she's just perfectly fine

@Kinocha__ @DrunkGenuine @reallifeuzi Strawman I’m talking specifically about accountability vs consequence. A tragic ending can exist without the character ever confronting their actions, and that’s what I’m pointing out

@HiHello370083 @DrunkGenuine @reallifeuzi So you'd be fine living as a half-awake blob in an Aquarium? And the story was never about accountability. Who cares if she was never held accountable? The story doesnt pretend she was, thats not the point

@Penblup @synwithagrine @TransWinterDyke Slow TADC fan says using he/her pronouns on a character that is fine with he/her pronouns is weird

@synwithagrine @TransWinterDyke The fact you use he on her says a lottttttt of u

He is horrible rep tho. Jax is a walking transfem stereotype. The writers sat down and decided to make their transfem character a misogynistic abuser that also has weird sexual fantasies about one of the women he abuses.