Software engineering has been dead at majority of the companies for a long time. Often it is just slop piled on top of other slop, no understanding of resource usage, no budgeting, code eating all of the RAM, 0 grasp of the performance characteristics of code, no clear specs (even though I myself often prefer less formal docs). No institutional understanding of how the system works, you just get helicoptered in to a particular corner of the codebase, no idea on how anything works and what to do - just poop out your slop half-fix/feature, crap out a load of useless tests that test whether your methods don't crash if you pass in null, helicopter out. DEAD.

@stainless_code Engineering has been transformed into product management yet they keep the name. There's nothing that is engineering about coordinating the release of a feature and presenting the results. Companies have undermined the technical part and we can see the disastrous results.

@engineseer @stainless_code honestly from the flip side? 100% agree I have no degree. I'm not an engineer. I enjoy shitty CRUD apps and making people's lives easier. it's literally what drew me to this field. why the fuck haven't we distinguished between "electrical engineer" and "electrician"?

@LibSoci @engineseer We have a term "developer" i guess. And we have different term for electical stuff - the PCB design guy is called Electronics engineer.