Apotiq1 ✴️

Avec plaisir; En fait, la raison pour laquelle c'est une "erreur" de pensée est qu'on ne peut prouver une inexistence (et surtout les cas sont infinis (!)). Pour autant, l'absence de preuve n'est pas une preuve de l'absence (donc ça ne veut pas dire que Dieu n'existe pas); mais néanmoins c'est une raison suffisante de ne pas y croire car c'est la position la plus rationnelle (cas de Pierre). Les religions ne s'y trompent pas d'ailleurs, car la foi n'est jamais présentée comme rationnelle

@Apotiq1 @pierre_jacquel2 D abord merci pour ton commentaire bienveillant je pensais que vu que lui affirmait et moi je n avais rien affirmé c était lui a de me le prouver si j ai fais une erreur je m en excuse

Une fois dans un discord full Muslims les mecs ont demandé au seul mec chretien de leur expliquer la trinité le mec a jamais reussit il se faisait perma vanner apres. 🤣🤣 Faut avouer que la théologie catho à aucun fucking sens désolé.

Non justement, ce n'est pas une preuve formelle, c'est un exercice de pensée Et même dans cet exercice de pensée, tu te retrouves avec le problème de définir Dieu. Il y a une grande différence entre trouver alléchant une cause unique (une énergie / cause primordiale qui initie un mouvement) et que ce soit "égal" à Dieu, tel que définis (différemment par ailleurs) dans les religions abrahamiques. D'ailleurs, on présuppose le besoin d'une cause unique mais tu peux trouver des systèmes en physique où - à partir du "rien" - peut surgir quelque chose (ça semble impossible, pourtant c'est mathématiquement prouvable). Aussi, la théorie du Big Bang n'exclue pas d'autre interprétations, à savoir le Big Bounce (le Big Bang n'étant que le recommencement à partir d'un univers antérieur; rendant caduque le principe de causalité) Attention aussi aux raisonnements intuitifs (comme la loi de la causalité), la physique quantique en est la preuve: c'est une somme de découvertes non-intuitives (voir rocambolesque), car la physique à cette échelle est complètement différente. Dans ce sens, je t'invite à t'intéresser l'effet de l'observateur en physique quantique, qui proprement incroyable (et prouvé scientifiquement!). Le fait d'observer une particule quantique (qui est dans plusieurs états à la fois à tout moment) FIGE son état. Autrement dit, la seule position rationnelle actuelle est: on ne peut pas prouver l'existence ou l'inexistence de Dieu; ce qui est d'ailleurs beaucoup plus stimulant intellectuellement. Que vaudrait la foi d'un croyant si c'était prouvable? De même, cela renforce l'humanisme de l'athée et l'agnostique, car ils font le bien sans rien espérer en retour.

@Apotiq1 @pierre_jacquel2 On peut démonter l existence avec des arguments comme la loi de causalité

Salut Mathis, Pierre est souvent très irritant à cause son malheureux ego démesuré qui lui joue bien des tours, mais il a raison ici. Ça s'appelle la "charge de la preuve". L'argument donné par les religions est: "Dieu existe". C'est à toi de prouver. Et il va falloir aussi définir au passage Dieu, ce qui est une lourde affaire. Pierre te donne l'astuce avec son exemple: "Prouve moi qu'il n'y a pas une licorne invisible à côté de moi". Ce n'est pas possible. "Dieu existe" en tant qu'affirmation devrait être démontrable. Soucis: vu qu'il est présenté comme une cause extérieure à tout sens, et que tous les arguments matérialistes sont réfutables (révélations & co), il n'est pas possible de prouver que Dieu existe. Au mieux, on peut être agnostique et dire: "Je ne sais pas si Dieu existe ou non, car ce n'est pas démontrable". La différence avec l'affirmation "Dieu n'existe pas" (qui n'est pas non plus démontrable!) est donné par Pierre: il "n'a pas besoin de cette hypothèse", vu qu'elle n'a aucune consistance / réalité matérielle. C'est une différence majeure. Tu remarqueras que l'impossibilité de prouver Dieu existe ne veut pas dire qu'il n'existe pas. Et d'ailleurs c'est ça la foi: on demande de croire aveuglément ("crois en ton cœur") sans jamais pouvoir en être certain par les voies matérielles.

@pierre_jacquel2 C est toi qui fait l affirmation que Dieu n existe pas c est à toi de me le prouver

I wonder how you were before MAGA start erasing your identity. I wonder if you're like that IRL, if it's the fluoride in the water that made you this way, or just propaganda. You don't realize that most of the things you say does not exist. I could explain it to you, or least having a debate, but it's not possible with the way you behave. I hope you'll find a way to go back to reality, buddy. Have a good day.

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix That's true. You're talking English, and I'm not speaking whatever language is native to you, because the world revolves around my country, America. And yes, mineral companies, and Euro bureaucrats who are holding them up, are fools

America: threatens to invade Greenland, mocks European soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq, leaks intel to Putin, tarriffs Europe, starts an offensive illegal war in Iran and calls on NATO to clean up the mess Europe: no America: I can't believe you've done this

Sorry I speak 3 langages so I make mistakes sometimes, but you're probably only talking english, so you would not understand. You seem a bit limited sadly. As for climate change, I guess all the minerals extracting companies waiting in Greenland are fools too. Do you know that H.Lutnick (from your President Cabinet) is a big investor there? But you'll not verify that since you don't verify anything probably. For the "build the necessary infrastucture", you know that the aggregate economic power of the EU is equal to China? You think the EU can't extract minerals :^) ?

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix Climate change, you're a fool 😂 And the way I talk is just fine. You literally don't even have proper grammar! As if Greeland could build the necessary infrastructure themselves. Denmark isn't utilizing the resources. it's that simple. So American will take it for ourselves 🖕🏻

Pardon, mais Saintoul (qui avait été bon) avait été quasi aussi "procureur" dans sa manière de faire. Y'a quelque chose de problématique avec le nombre de réels que fait Alloncle et le fait indéniable de se servir de la commission pour sa carrière; n'empêche que: - Il s'en sert comme une catharsis d'une frange de la population qui se sentent méprisés / non représentés dans l'audiovisuel public (raison pourquoi ça a autant marché et pourquoi il a autant forcé dessus) - Il y a indéniablement un ton penchant à gauche socdem dans l'audiovisuel public (bien plus vrai avant cependant), mais les téléspectateurs l'ont remarqué pendant des décennies (raison qu'une chaîne de caniveau comme CNEWS puisse fonctionner d'ailleurs) - Chose corroboré par les liens entre postes prestigieux / partis politiques (PS / EEVL) [avec soupçon de détournement] démontrés pendant cette commission Disons que l'objectif de fond ne sera pas atteint (ça dépendra de la qualité du rapport, s'il est sorti) mais ça fait découvert les commissions d'enquête comme quelque chose d'utile auprès du grand public (même si ça a eu des allures de cirques). La démocratie passe aussi par mettre la lumière sur ses processus interne; même si c'est fait à la truelle. Les cris d'orfraies de tout le corps politique et journalistique est parlante en vérité.

Cerise sur le gâteau : si le rapport est publié, Alloncle en fera la victoire politique de l'année. Si le rapport n'était pas publié (ce qui est rarissime), il aurait tout loisir de crier à la censure de ses révélations explosives. Pile je gagne, face tu perds.

Après avoir regardé la quasi intégralité de la commission d'enquête sur l'audiovisuel public, quelques remarques sur la forme et le fond, et sur le problème majeur qu'a soulevé Charles Alloncle en détournant un outil démocratique pour en faire une tribune personnelle ./..

The right are onto Greenlanders, and yes the Danish government does not force them to extract. What you also probably don't know (considering the way you talk), is that the easiest minerals to harvest are all subject to big radiations in the environment; which would leave greenlanders near the spot to leave their cities (which they don't want obviously) and risks in others cities. I guess you don't care about that. You're probably fine in the case the US government would expell you from your house also, right? For the big part of minerals, it's super hard to extract due to weather conditions & hard to access (which might change partly with climate change, hence why many US extracting companies are already there waiting).

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix Yet you eurocunts have never done a single thing to harvest and utilize said minerals. And instead of making a counteroffer you threw a temper tantrum 😂

You guys have really weird arguments, it's pretty surprising. I don't know if you represent a minority in the US or you're genuine about it. - "The hand that feeds you" => first it's condescending (as if you were some master!) and second it's false. The aggregate economic power of the EU is equal to China. Wake up. - "Safeguard you" => The aggregate EU Army is almost equal to the US, in all metrics (except total number of warheads & navy projection potential). The only safeguard is for you because NATO is the go-to channel to SELL your weapons (and it's done on purpose for your interests). - "How vile" => vile for what? For not being spineless for once and just saying "we don't want to participate". You see EU as lapdogs or what? Is it respectful? - "Stand to lose" => it'll be harder short-term, but winning independency medium-term. Anyway, you need us to buy fundamental ressources. - "how negatively that will impact all of you" => it's a two way street buddy. You're that rich due to the EU. Your entire empire is built on your success & geopolitical strategy after WII (oil dollarization, Marshall plan, etc). - "you’re going to learn the hard way" => you too. However, comparing to you, we already know we have to trade to being relevant. We cannot completly isolate like you, due to poor fundamental ressources. Public perception is not fully aware, but we know for already two decades we'll have to perform with lower ressources. Hope this help.

That’s your problem: arrogance & ignorance. You bite the hand that feeds & safeguards you, thinking it will always be there no matter how vile you are to those providing it, completely unaware of all that you stand to lose & how negatively that will impact all of you. You’re going to learn the hard way.

@FalkTG @Lasseby1964 Imagine being afraid of being sovereign. You know that americans hate pussies like you? Btw, it's the US that pushes us into being more sovereign, not the other way around. Grow a spine and stop being a low level ragebaiter propagandist.

@Lasseby1964 Tu ich nicht - ich halt es aber für ein extrem gefährliches Vabanque Spiel in das sich Europa reinsteigert

I repeat: The U.S. sent thousands of its 19 years old soldiers to die in Normandy, to free Europe and to end the biggest crime against humanity ever commited - by Europeans. It was just 81 years ago. The whole reason, France, Benelux etc. 🇫🇷 exist today is because of this heroism. My grandparents could grow up in a liberal democracy. Without the U.S. they would be raised at the H*tler Youth. We Europeans would still be in wars again and again, like 1914, 1866, 1870, 1795 etc. They brought peace, democracy, liberty and human rights. They invested billions of U.S. Dollars into Europe with the Marshall Fund. They gave us more than we ever had in our history before. They protected us for 7 decades with hundreds of thousands of soldiers against the cruelties of the Soviet Union. The terror we can see nowadays in Donetsk, would have happened in Bavaria, Bourgogne or the Netherlands in 1950 if there wasn’t the U.S. 🇺🇸 Who do we Europeans think we are to let that nation down, act like bad allies, calling their President names every day on television - and have full confidence we stand better alone. All of instagram is just about, why we’re better than the U.S. We owe them so much. We Europeans are most arrogant species on earth. And to cure this we have to face the truth.

Not very fair to use the example where German were at their military peak and French at their lowest. But I'm not surprise your nitpick what suit your worldview. WWII doctrine are due to the effect of WWI in the psyche of French military and the amount of casulties & destruction (the whole industrial apparatus was destroyed contrary to the german one). I could choose everytime US lost war recently, and there's a bunch. Does not mean US is incompetent. As for companies, I don't know which you are talking to (military or not). I could say it's a pity that the US being the first number 1 power for decades, was not able to be first in any societal metrics. A pity as you say.

Well aware of France’s military “ability”. Most of my American friends marvel at the seeming contradiction between French intelligence AND French ineptitude. U.S. is finding out that not much has changed since WWII. "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me".—George Patton, referencing the commonly held scepticism of French reliability during WWII. All that said there are a great many French companies that absolutely flourish in America. Pity they don’t fare so well in France.

In case anybody missed it, France is actively preparing for a post Pax Americana world. In the last 6 months: ∙ Aircraft carrier “France Libre”: 80,000-ton nuclear carrier, largest warship ever built in Europe announced, €10-12 billion ∙ Nuclear arsenal expansion: first warhead increase in 30+ years, stockpile size now classified, forward-basing on allied territory authorized ∙ European nuclear umbrella: “forward deterrence” doctrine with 8 partners (Germany, UK, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Sweden, Denmark) ∙ UK-France nuclear pact: joint strategy consultations, joint submarine patrols, joint R&D since July 2025 ∙ 140 Rafale sold to India: 26 Rafale Marine ($7.5B, April 2025) + 114 Rafale for air force ($39B, cleared January 2026), largest Indian arms deal ever ∙ World’s 2nd largest arms exporter: 9.8% global share (SIPRI, March 2026), up 21%, replacing Russia ∙ Gold repatriation: 129 tonnes sold at the NY Fed, repurchased in Paris, entire 2,437-tonne reserve now in France, €12.8B profit ∙ €36B defense spending increase: budget to reach €64B by 2027, two years ahead of schedule ∙ Strait of Hormuz: leading EU escort mission, 19 of 23 major warships deployed to Mediterranean/Gulf. On April 3, a French-owned CMA CGM vessel became the first Western European ship to transit the strait since Iran closed it ∙ New SSBN “L’Invincible”: next-generation nuclear ballistic missile submarine announced ∙ JEWEL program: sovereign European space-based missile early warning system ∙ ELSA initiative: Franco-British-German long-range conventional strike missile program ∙ SAMP/T NG air defense: next-gen surface-to-air system, Denmark and Ukraine already buyers ∙ 14 EPR2 nuclear reactors planned: largest nuclear construction program in Western Europe ∙ Africa strategy reset: new Africa-France Summit in Nairobi, post-withdrawal from Sahel ∙ 2025 National Strategic Review: new strategic objective on scientific and technological sovereignty (AI, quantum, nuclear propulsion) Ready to lead Europe into a path of independence.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ Vive la France, vive l’Europe

@llrmiller @larroumecj You realize that France is completly independent militarly for several decades already, and we have the atomic bomb since the 60's right? I welcome you into stop being so ignorant.

@larroumecj As an American, I welcome any other Western democracy’s entry into adulthood. The American military is tired of babysitting Europe.

You want that because you're fair, but I can tell you the US did NOT want that for decades. It's better to have a vassal than an independent counterpart; it's logical geopolitically wise. See how americans in twitter react when EU countries have the audacity (!) to not follow blindly FOR ONCE US commands. That's independence (as an ally) and I can't tell you many americans do not like it. In aggregate, we already have our own sword: we have nuclear weapons and a army almost as big as the US ones. What's lacking is the will of being something. Which is hard to operate, with 27 different members state, and without diluting the national idendity into something tasteless.

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix Trust me the US wants you all to be powerful and independent. Not to vassalize you. But for you to be an actual power again. We can disagree all day, as long as you can hold your own sword.

My stance is simple: Israel gov should not have reacted as strongly and commiting that many war crimes, and killing that many people. Nor should push for illegal colonization of Cisjordania. Even more considering the PM made FLOURISHED the "culture of violence" in West Bank. (Netan FINANCED Hamas. I Repeat. Netan FINANCED Hamas to weaken the pacific voice. Check Israelis news). I just told you the PM and Israeli is AGAINST coexisting. They're AGAINST a two-state solution. Since the beginning. Does it means their neighbours are pacific, and not full of proxies? No. But the Abraham agreement existed, and it was of Isreal to make it work. They did not, because it's not in their interest to have a two state solution. Even - in a ideal world - with pacific neighbours. They have all the leverage in the region thanks to the US, and they're pushing to take control of most of it. I mean, for some, even the Bible say so! (sic)

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix I'm not going to sit here and defend Israel like it's some pariah. It does, by law, exist as a country. Do you support a rebel state using religion to build a culture of hard right wing violence, justifying it as resistance? When it could just try coexisting?

The goal for US is also to have the EU as a powerhouse, who'll need to leverage whose the most offering depending of the situation. The fact the EU is not listed on your comment while having - in agregate - the same GDP as China, nearly as much as military as the US, is very telling. We lack ressources, which means we can't isolate as you do, but we have all the rest. So that's the aim! And this vision is against US & China & Russia interests, because it's easier to vassalize small countries than a dormant aggregate

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix You can moralize things all you want, at the end of the day you have Russia, China, and the US. I know you're mad over Trump but you will have to decide who to kowtow to. And we'll be bitter about it, but you will reap the consequences as you point to everything the US did wrong.

Israel Palestine subject is very touchy and hard to tackle. My stance is: I would not have like people coming from Europe to create a state where I live, even if people of the same religious where there thousands of years of ago (which is not an argument btw). Also, if thoses people offered me having 55% of my territory (with most access to waters which is lacking the region) while us - being 10x more in population (!) - have 45% of the total territory, I would not accepted either. HOWEVER, since the different wars and the fact that Israel have nuclear weapons, and developed as a state (with an arabic component), I think it DE FACTO exists, and we CAN'T go back. Thus, Palestinians (which are DNA wise the same people as Jews) should have accepted having their territory reduced. BUT, let's not forget Israel due to US military backup would maybe not won (at least, not that hard!). Israel is a US dominion, serving US interests (which is less & less the case). When the US decides something, Israel used to listen instantly and follow commands. Giving back Sinai & co, might have come this; OR the realization keeping it was unsustainable at the time. Now, coming to present days, with Netanhayu (who made everything to make Hamas grow, since he financed them [check current relevations about that]+ having stated multiple times a TWO STATE solution was NOT possible + having state multiples times it was easy to use US at Israel interests); who needed political support to stay in power, and broaden as years comes by, with the most extremists jews (from radical religious to radical zionists) to be part of his government; We arrive at a weird timeline where: - Part of Israeli government believe the NATURAL bounderies Israel is the one describes in the Bible (and not even, only from the far right!) - US Christian Zionist, also believes it for the same reason (stated in the Bible) - Trump family & Cabinet is filled with Zionist & Christian Zionist (Kushner, Witkoff, Lutnick, etc) Factually, right now, Israel has invaded (for security reasons as they state): - Syria, Lebanon, West Bank Palestine, Cisjordinia Isreali government has also said: - Lebanon People will NOT go back to South Lebanon - West bank Palestine should be refomed through the Board of Peace Project (Check Jared Kushner (!) presentation) - Nothing on Cisjordania since illegal occupation is carrying on - I don't know where it is now for the Syria situation I know it's weird, but facts are there. In all cases, Israel wants to be regional geopolitcal powerhouse of the region

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix OK but in what way has Israel, as a state, ventured towards the Greater Israel project? Was it when they gave back the Sinai? Attempted to give back the Golan Heights? Or was it when they ceded the Palestinian territories to Palestinian power? This fundamental belief is a lie.

I've no problem with American wanting or feeling their interests should matter more. Reducing immigration for a more legal one, having less corruption, more security, etc; all of that is very fair and even good. But that's more a intern politics. For his geopolitcal takes, it simply goes against most countries interests, since US pushed for globalization and now it does not win on it, they want countries to choose side; as the risk of being even more vassals to the leaders of the world poles. It's against EU countries interests. But it'll be very hard for us in any case, because we lack fundamental ressources; but it's necessary. We can aim to build another way for middle powers; but that goes also against US interests (you need us as vassals). We'll see!

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix Yes I'll argue, passionately at times, but it's never personal. I lived in Europe for 7 years and the Middle East for 3, I'm not an ignorant American in that sense. I don't like Trump or what he's caused, but I don't think he alone is to blame and some of his points are proven.

Oh I know quite well, and some of the subculture & ideal there. But the Islamic world is more fragmated that we think. Shia have a doomsday aspect (but mostly aim to Israel mostly & the US than EU for instance), but it's also seen as an heretic religion by sunni. Weirdly, there's way more science & engineers under their regime than in any sunni country. They also have law for trans (!); something would not expect at all since it seems contrary to the religious doctrine. Dunno if it comes more from the Persian aspect or the Shia or the blend of the two, but reality is always more complex. It's a regime I really hope would fall for a more democratic & free alternative, because Iran is a great civilization & people. But I don't think it's how you force a regime change. It only makes it worse. We've seen several times now.

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix The other Gulf countries might have their own inclinations, but they also aren't actively threatening the west with their existance. I don't think you fully understand Shia Islam.

Agree they should not have nuke. For strong evidence, not really at the time. Most secret department were adament there was nothing urgent, except the Isreali ones (that need a war with Iran, it serves their interests geopolitically). Can't be for sure, but there's a strong chance that the current missiles were developed AFTER the JCPOA agreement was ripped; since it forces the regime to push for nuclear & missile as an indepence movement (due to eco sanctions). As for doomsday cult, sadly there are some in the Israeli government (Grand Israel project - refering to the Bible to push geopolitical actions) & also the US government (Christian Zionist).

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix I understand why you're upset about Trump ripping up the JCPOA, but there's strong evidence Iran wasn't being honest. Like when they launched missiles capable of hitting Diego Garcia. It's a religious doomsday cult masquerading as a government, and it should never have nukes.

I sense you're reasonable and open to debate, and I get your stance. I get americans are offended that the bases they maintain being close is ridiculous. But all of this shit is due to Trump & his behavior. I think americans don't realize what the Greenland drama did to the europeans public, nor realize what the current Trump opera is doing even to even the most spineless EU politicians. You literally had all the cards in EU and defending Trump stance is becoming impossible. Europeans don't hate americans, and I hope we all know social media people are not how real convos would go. Most people would get along fine, even with many MAGA crackheads. I also hope the US will be fine and I know it will in any case. Geopolitically, it has all the cards - even after Trump - to be well.

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix I'll agree that the US in Iraq was idiotic. I do hope EU leaders rise up and secure a strong future for Europe.

I need to verify your claim, but I think it changed since the end of last year (because EU are now buying your weapons to give to Ukraine). Anyways, in all cases, it's pretty close. Ukraine is also in your geopolitical interests btw. US always needed to avoid Russia & EU being close (and it seems the damage is done for medium term) as it needs to avoid Russia & China being close (but Russia is in a shit situation now). So you agree Trump is the sole reason EU bases were close. If it was respectful, there was a world where EU members would have open their bases (but I don't think any other President would have start a war with Iran + WITHOUT telling their plan to NATO members).

@Apotiq1 @OpinionatedMeme @Gryffix I'm not going to lie and say Trump is respectful. He's the exact opposite. There's a reason he was voted in twice. You can't gaslight the whole American public. And still, to date, the US has given more to Ukraine than any other country. I don't know where you get your facts.