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@mtgbanding Put Divine Intervention in a Show and Tell deck with Clockspinning called Show and Draw, it pisses people off way more than just winning. Also put Goblin Game into a Burning Wish Depths list for a bingo night with friends to great effect.

the power 9 of strange card effects > how many have you experienced? > what card belongs here?

@PascalMaynard @wizards_magic I argue they should continue, if commander isn't the most popular format anymore, maybe we can have sets not design with commander in mind.

Making Commander bans is the worst decision I ever seen @wizards_magic make. Does not matter if you had a good reason, casual players will not see the big picture (and they have no reason to). Now players will fear bans and stop buying staples which was never in their mind before

@bmkibler @Burzolog Isn't that half of the problems in Vintage and Legacy? Cards that become too format defining for them to have action against them so they just ban cards around it? Cards like Brainstorm, Bazaar and Workshops come to mind.

@Burzolog I think it is nonsensical, as I said. A ban philosophy that says fast mana of a certain power level isn't allowed and banning weaker cards than sol ring (like lotus) isn't coherent.

I feel like banning Crypt and Jeweled Lotus is a huge miss. Some people like playing high powered Commander and these cards are part of that. They are a rule zero issue, not a ban list issue, and to ban them and leave Sol Ring legal is just nonsensical.

@TheZZielinski @stranglercore @_claypot @Gripmaestro Contemporary dungeon synth has become very on the nose, which is not fault of anyone but if it evokes the feeling of being in a fantasy world of medieval times then who is to say it is wrong to label it that.

@TheZZielinski @stranglercore @_claypot @Gripmaestro Pseudiom on YouTube talks in great lengths about the history of Dungeon Synth, prior to picking up the name Dungeon Synth, it definitely was very much the interludes of metal albums that defined the original songs people would consider "dungeon synth".

dungeonsynth music having a spike in popularity again on tiktok because some guy keeps dressing like a little green wizard and skittering around malls to it is very funny

@leemcleo I’ve felt that all but the Timespiral Remaster ones felt like proxies of old bordered cards. Between that and to juxtaposition with art that didn’t fit the frame to ultimately feel lazy for me to get behind.

@BobbyTidus @SaffronOlive @jorgecrespotude And I bet you’re expecting a participation trophy when you lose too right? Sometimes you lose hard and move on. It’s not that deep.

The number of unwritten rules in Commander that you are expected to follow but aren't enforced by the ban list or rules is probably my least favorite part of the format. It's like Commander is a bunch of 80 year old baseball fans that throw a fit when someone flips a bat.

@SandwurmFood @depthofend @DGallenMtg You ever use GrubHub or DoorDash? You’re paying for convenience of not needing to obtain it before the event. It’s not deeper than that.

@depthofend @DGallenMtg yeah but you can step outside the venue and avoid that pretty easily. you can't just find another card vendor as easily. the on site vendors are literally exploiting a temporary market with cartel-like conditions of price fixing.

@NotQuotable Based on the replies to this type of discourse, if it's not dirt cheap they think it's unreasonable regardless if there's none on the market.

@CohnerTodd so less people will crack boxes to put the singles online, because it is not worth their time & investment. what happens to the prices of singles if their availability decreases?

As someone who has multiple companies in the industry and who has vended the smallest ptq to the largest events in the country across multiple games, i feel i can speak on this. Both @TandyMTG and @CardGardenMTG are right here, but there are nuances at play. 1/🧵

@NotQuotable Yes it does, why would you sell something online that is not worth the time to put into an envelope and a stamp on it? Both can be true at the same time. You can have so much product and also none of it being sold. It's literally happening as we speak.

@CohnerTodd this does not address the point at all; structural overprinting cannot be held responsible for prices going down if it is also responsible for less product appearing on the market as singles.

@NotQuotable So then how much does the EV need to increase for the average LGS to make money? Hard to say, especially when anyone can sell on TCGplayer keeping prices down since you and I can open our own shop.

@NotQuotable A store would not only need to crack packs, sort, price, and then list their inventory online fill their cases. That takes time and labor, that just is the overhead. Then still need to make profit. It's not EV > Box Value, it's EV > Box Value + Labor

@andrejsprost @TandyMTG No it has not? If it was never a contractual agreement before with the tournament organizer, it was because it was profitable (in the interest of the vendor) to bring cards relevant to format being played. It is now not worth their time. You again are entitled for thinking this.

@CohnerTodd @TandyMTG That's been the entire purpose of having vendors at these events in the first place. I don't care what's profitable for the vendors in the same way they don't care if its convenient to me. If they don't want to voluntarily carry the cards it should be written into contract.

@andrejsprost @TandyMTG Why is it the vendor's job to make sure your registered deck is at the tournament? Why do you feel entitled to have it that way? It worked in the past because standard legal cards still held decent value, enough where you could make a profit as a vendor.

@TandyMTG Venders should be forced as part of theyre contracts to bring a certain amount of staples for whatever the constructed format the main event is. It worked for the WMC and Pro tours for years. If you don't want to/ aren't able to someone that will can buy the booth.

@sarahceliann @FrankLepore If the main draw to a product is the fact they have shocklands, and they're "printed into the ground", would that be a draw for people to buy said product?

@FrankLepore Honestly, shocklands are the most stapliest of staples. Let them get printed into the ground, I say.

So we're reprinting shocklands in both Ravnica Remastered (January 12th) AND Murders at Karlov Manor (February 9th)? And each set will have multiple treatments? That seems like...a lot in less than a 30 day period.

@PleasantKenobi @fffreakmtg @mechalink @SaffronOlive Wasn't the competitive diversity mostly based on Pro Tour Coverage? It was a deck that a larger than 10% of people who play at the PT gravitate to, which would lead to a lot of similar matches and sake of watching competitive diversity be bad. But it was the Eldrazi PT anyways

@fffreakmtg @mechalink @SaffronOlive I think it was? One argument I'm unsure on is if Twin was ousting up larger conversion numbers? Day 2, top 16s and similar

On the left is the Modern meta from January 5, 2016, less than two weeks before Splnter Twinw as banned "In the interest of competitive diversity." On the right is the Modern meta today.

@PleasantKenobi Why? Disney/Marvel have and will continue to try to push their IP on everything they think that can grow their consumer base and that won't hurt their image. They did it with Fortnite, it only makes sense they'd work with a company like Hasbro. I for one hate it though.

Holy shit. I am actually, legitimately shocked.

@RyRySamurai @DBoTheGreat @FierceDeity2019 @_Memo_4302 Just fucking scoop and move on. Jesus man, it’s a legal card that can be played, and if you’re upset that it exists and gets cast I can’t help you. Like seek help.

@DBoTheGreat @CohnerTodd @FierceDeity2019 @_Memo_4302 i find jumping into a conversation with ‘just get good’ ‘i’m not gonna coddle you’ and invalidating other people’s play experience as a strawman to win a nonexistent argument all unnecessarily antagonistic if i hurt anyone’s feelings by calling that out with a meme, then My B.

Lord Tony is a homie 🫡

@RyRySamurai @FierceDeity2019 @_Memo_4302 Bro made a whole ass image because he has no actual argument. If it ain’t that serious then just scoop when you get your lands blown up.

@CohnerTodd @FierceDeity2019 @_Memo_4302 bro it ain’t that serious