Punished Elder

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Punished Elder

Punished Elder

@DigitalPastaFan

Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Nerd of too many things.

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Punished Elder
Punished Elder@DigitalPastaFan·
@ArchMonkFritz @jkimballcook @CameronSpendlo2 It has more to do with agency and responsibility. If it were the case that all abortion is murder, then the Church’s position would be incoherent You don’t get to murder someone because of the actions of someone else, but the Church allows for abortion in cases of rape
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Fritz 🟧
Fritz 🟧@ArchMonkFritz·
@jkimballcook @CameronSpendlo2 No, it relies on the common sense understanding that killing a child in utero is still murder. That might be the grossest, most disturbingly lawyer-ish response I've ever seen from you. Bordering on amoral.
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Jared Cook
Jared Cook@jkimballcook·
people can argue about the reasons for this, but the leadership of the church (and President Oaks in particular) have long been troubled by the partisan imbalance among the membership of the church, lessening the GOP chokehold on the membership is a good thing
Deseret News@Deseret

🔗: bit.ly/4m2lxXm American members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints stood out over the past 20 years as the only religious group besides atheists that shifted toward greater Democratic Party self-identification. Latter-day Saints remain the second most Republican-leaning religious group in the United States but a new Cooperative Election Study analysis found this GOP advantage has shrunk by around 10 percentage points. Read more about the shift at the link above. ✏️: @BrighamTomco, Deseret News 🎨: Eliza Anderson, Deseret News

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Stewart Robson
Stewart Robson@srob_·
Genuinely wild to include this passage and claim it supports your views!
Christian Heiens 🏛@ChristianHeiens

How fucking retarded do you have to be to believe that the original intent of the 14th amendment’s authors was for citizenship to be automatically granted to the children of tourists, illegals, and even enemy combatants who are being held on American soil? The man who wrote the amendment quite literally went on the Senate floor and publicly declared that it wouldn’t apply to foreigners or aliens.

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Punished Elder
Punished Elder@DigitalPastaFan·
@Normonism @krillyboy @csmaddox2008 The fact that Kim, just a decade after Wilkins, reinforced birthright citizenship shows that there was not a precedent set The US, in general, has treated Natives as exceptions to the rule. In part because geography is not as important for tribal sovereignty
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Will@Normonism·
@DigitalPastaFan @krillyboy @csmaddox2008 If that were true, Native Americans born off the reservation would have been granted citizenship prior to 1924. They were not. In other words, the precedent set by Native American policy goes against birthright citizenship.
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Camille Maddox
Camille Maddox@csmaddox2008·
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Trevor Lee@VoteTrevorLee

Ending birthright citizenship is essential for American sovereignty. The 14th Amendment was written to protect freed slaves after the Civil War not to reward illegal immigrants with anchor babies that enable chain migration. Most nations require at least one citizen parent. Automatic citizenship by soil location incentivizes lawbreaking, burdens taxpayers, and dilutes the meaning of citizenship. We must choose who joins our nation not let geography decide. Time to fix it. #EndBirthrightCitizenship

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Will@Normonism·
@krillyboy @DigitalPastaFan @csmaddox2008 "All people, excepting American Indians (etc.) can be on US soil but not subject to the jurisdiction thereof." Correct. And this is the point. Being on US soil =/= being subject to US jurisdiction. This is why the amendment does not grant citizenship on birth alone.
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Justin Stapley
Justin Stapley@JustinWStapley·
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." When it comes to abandoning the plain speech of the Constitution and trying to turn it into a "living document," we've reached the point where, yes, both sides do it. And we should reject both sides when they try to do it.
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Punished Elder
Punished Elder@DigitalPastaFan·
This was not supposed to happen!
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Punished Elder
Punished Elder@DigitalPastaFan·
@Normonism @csmaddox2008 Lol you haven’t answered the question, that’s a fact. Totally ok that you don’t want to! Have a nice day!
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Punished Elder
Punished Elder@DigitalPastaFan·
Lil gup doesn't know what an appositive is Can anyone tell me how, if their interpretation is correct, the mention of the children of foreign ministers isn't redundant? They'd already be covered by the mention of foreigners (Also you literally cannot be born here and an alien)
Christian Heiens 🏛@ChristianHeiens

How fucking retarded do you have to be to believe that the original intent of the 14th amendment’s authors was for citizenship to be automatically granted to the children of tourists, illegals, and even enemy combatants who are being held on American soil? The man who wrote the amendment quite literally went on the Senate floor and publicly declared that it wouldn’t apply to foreigners or aliens.

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Dr Manhattva
Dr Manhattva@Manhattva·
It looks like the Supreme Court is about to make birthright tourism from China, a Constitutional right.
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Punished Elder@DigitalPastaFan·
@KaiSchwemmer Lol what? Do you have any evidence that fertility rates will be boosted? Afaik it's never been shown to be a wage issue Even countries that have extremely strict immigration have fertility issues. Foreigners are not the problem here
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Kai Schwemmer
Kai Schwemmer@KaiSchwemmer·
This is how we actually get deportations done. The issue of immigration touches everything. Want greater efficacy? Make employment verification online, and enforce immigration law at worksites. This will drive up wages, reduce exploitation, and eventually boost fertility rates.
Mass Deportation Coalition@Phase2Deport

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Punished Elder@DigitalPastaFan·
This is already the case without birthright citizenship I'm a dual citizen! My foreign parent is a legal resident, and I was technically obligated to serve in the Brazilian military before I got an exemption
Leading Report@LeadingReport

BREAKING: Justice Sam Alito explains that unlimited birthright citizenship means a Chinese, Iranian or Russian foreigner can have a child in America, and that US citizen owes military allegiance to a foreign adversary.

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