The BBQ Counselor

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The BBQ Counselor

The BBQ Counselor

@Drogdor1

Licensed attorney, litigator, and Texas BBQ enthusiast.

เข้าร่วม Şubat 2009
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@Drogdor1 It 100% DOES NOT MATTER if they gave consent. They were told, CLEARLY, that most of the SW Lego in that store belong to the Mansells. It DOES NOT MATTER if they allow consignment they knew those items did not belong to the store and hence not to them.
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Liberty the Wonder Pup went swimming for the first time today and now she’s pooped!
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The BBQ Counselor@Drogdor1·
@DaveCash0527 @roachout There's definitely also a claim against BAM Franchising for money that was owed to the Mansell's from sales already made but that had not been paid out. I'm not sure it's a conversion claim per se -- but it's something similar. Likely a business tort for unjust enrichment.
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Dave C@DaveCash0527·
@Drogdor1 @roachout Oh there’s absolutely a conversion claim for the sets remaining after Crystal’s departure, the question is whether there is one for those sets sold by her before she left, in which case the ultimate liability would still lie with BaM if there was no consignment agreement
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In the wake of the Coffeezilla video, there's been a lot of chatter about which side is really "at fault." At the end of the day, none of that matters legally. BAM Franchising Inc. assumed ownership of the Salem OR store. That means BAM Franchising assumed all the assets--and OBLIGATIONS--of the Salem Store as the successor-in-interest of the business. They not only have a moral obligation to ensure the Mansells are repaid -- they have a legal one.
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And, as I've been saying, even if consent was required it no longer matters -- BAM Franchising assumed ownership of the store and took on the store's obligations. That it knew about the consignment when assuming that ownership makes the math even clearer.
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If you read the agreement it plainly lists OTHER activities (not consignment) that must be "approved" by BAM Franchising -- i.e., "approved off-site events" and "other toy related services approved by us."
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gogurt@roachout·
@DaveCash0527 @Drogdor1 If consignments aren't allowed, then BaM didn't sell them, Chyrstal did, and the results of that fall entirely on her individually, not BaM the franchise, that didn't even know this was happening.
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The BBQ Counselor@Drogdor1·
@DaveCash0527 @roachout I think there's a conversion claim regardless of whether consignment agreements were permitted. BAM was notified that the Mansells owned the inventory and were owed payment for sold sets. Once on notice, BAM assumed obligations concerning that property and proceeds.
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Dave C@DaveCash0527·
@roachout @Drogdor1 If the agreement didn’t permit consignments then the sets belonging to the Mansells weren’t BaM’s to sell and they’re guilty of theft and conversion in which case they’d not only owe the full value of any sets sold in the interim but also all of those sold by Crystal
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@TR1GGA187 On the criminal side, yes. On the civil side, you've got an injunction against posting on social media (where he makes his money), potential damages exposure in excess of $1 million.
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Casey@TR1GGA187·
@Drogdor1 Just out of curiosity, how would it affect his career and future exactly? Jail time and fines?
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@kennygha @khunt1583 The value of the collection really isn't the point. The fact that the Mansells haven't been made whole by BAM is the point.
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Drickton@kennygha·
@khunt1583 @Drogdor1 Nope. It was only worth $107k Not anywhere near 200k. Why are you talking about a completely different scenario? Hahahahaha
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@roachout If you think you're right, go ahead and post the franchise contract and let's look at it.
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gogurt@roachout·
@Drogdor1 Yeah, that verbal agreement would never hold up legally. And I read the franchise contract, it does not permit consignments, it expressly lists consignments as something that can only be done with BaM authorization.
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@roachout Your point is both factually and legally wrong. The franchise agreement expressly permitted consignment agreements. And even if it hadn’t, BAM was notified of the consignment the night of the takeover and expressly assumed responsibility for it.
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gogurt@roachout·
@Drogdor1 No, if she wasn't allowed to do consignments, then that falls entirely on her alone. More than that, if this does turn out to be the case, potentially makes her liable for fraud against BaM, and possibly Bryan as well.
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@ThatRetiredDude @DissentFu you're debating with someone whose profile simultaneously says "mask up" and "my body is not the property of the government." These are not consistent positions.
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Jared Maxwell@ThatRetiredDude·
@DissentFu "I got a master degree in rocket science and I'm angry that my job washing dishes has resulted in me being broke"
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I Dissent@DissentFu·
I am 52 years old. I have been working since I was 15 years old. I have no savings, no retirement, and will never own a home before I die. And there is now a trillionaire.
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@roachout That's not completely correct. They are also liable for consigned inventory that was sold but for which the Mansells had not been paid. Those are debts of the business that BAM Franchising expressly assumed when it took over the store - caught on video.
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gogurt@roachout·
@Drogdor1 They have an obligation to return the 20k or so worth of sets shown to have been in the store when they took it back from Chrystal. Currently that's the only thing they're shown to be liable for. The rest is based on whether or not she was actually allowed to do consignments.
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