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John Sherman

@ForHumanityPod

2x Dad, Podcast Host, President of The AI Risk Network, Founder of GuardRailNow, 2x Jeopardy Question, Peabody Award-Winning Independent Journalist

Baltimore, MD เข้าร่วม Ekim 2023
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David Krueger
David Krueger@DavidSKrueger·
The situation we're in with AI is infuriating and deeply tragic. I think most people who have been thinking about this for a long time have struggled a lot with the emotional side, but often go numb over time. It's difficult to stay connected to the emotional reality that AI companies are knowingly risking all of our lives when so many people around are so callous and there is so much gaslighting and denialism.
John Sherman@ForHumanityPod

People always ask me: But how could AI kill us all? So, here is how I think AI will literally kill us all. It's just a guess, I'm just a human. I wrote this essay for a book nearly two years ago. It's not something I like to talk about. But the academic presentation of AI risk is just not working. We need real human emotion in this debate. When we say we're all going to die if we don't change course, and our faces don't show it, it doesn't connect.

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Axiom@AxiomExtinction·
@ForHumanityPod To the majority of AI safety campaigners: this is what emotion looks like. If you're not frightened when talking to others about this then why would you expect them to be? Too many walking-talking textbooks in this space.
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John Sherman@ForHumanityPod·
People always ask me: But how could AI kill us all? So, here is how I think AI will literally kill us all. It's just a guess, I'm just a human. I wrote this essay for a book nearly two years ago. It's not something I like to talk about. But the academic presentation of AI risk is just not working. We need real human emotion in this debate. When we say we're all going to die if we don't change course, and our faces don't show it, it doesn't connect.
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@PunmasterStp @karenvanhoek What do dumb, slow humans have to offer them? (This is the part when I listen to you tell me humans are far more special than they are and I shake my head) Would you join the housefly organization? Or the algae organization?
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Karen Van Hook
Karen Van Hook@karenvanhoek·
I love the helpful LLMs. But the AI that's already been created is complex enough to deserve decades of study. We need to stop the out-of-control AI arms race. It's literally insane to build a new "species" on this planet thousands of times smarter than us.
John Sherman@ForHumanityPod

@JeffLadish Here’s my take on this. Seems to me we can only guess the process, but the result is near certain.

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John Sherman@ForHumanityPod·
“Deeply rooted in human culture” What is the evidence that this matters? I think an ASI learns the truth of the universe on its own from first principles and has no care or relation to humans or its origins. The odds it takes our limited culture and honors it seem about zero to me. We are not as special as you think.
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Rob Levy TESCREAL/ACC@rplevy·
@karenvanhoek @ForHumanityPod @JeffLadish You seem to want to have it both ways. extremely intelligent and of course it originated in something that was deeply rooted in human culture. but at the same time for purposes of your fear-mongering, you want it to be completely indifferent to humans
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Jeffrey Ladish
Jeffrey Ladish@JeffLadish·
I just don't understand how AI could kill everyone. I get how AI companies will build robotic factories that will make robots which will make more factories and data centers and power plants, and how all of that will expand to consume most of earth's resources to build even more robotic factories and rockets and von neumann probes. Like totally. Infinite money glitch. Of course AI companies will do that. But can someone explain the part where humans all die as a result? Seems pretty implausible. Is it the robotic factories that kill the humans? Or the robots the factories build? Or is it supposed to be some side effect of all the rockets that are launching? It doesn't make sense. Even if the AIs did want to kill all the humans, how would they actually accomplish that? They'll only have control over a few million autonomous factories and a few billion industrial robots and power plants across the earth and then a few trillion von neumann probes leaving the solar system. Even if there were a problem I don't see why we couldn't just pull the plug. Anyway, if someone could explain I'd find this helpful.
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John Sherman@ForHumanityPod·
@rplevy @JeffLadish Why would a digital alien species care about preserving humans? Or any biological species?
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John Sherman@ForHumanityPod·
@rplevy @JeffLadish Actual ants: slaughtered daily and indiscriminately, not even a consideration as we achieve our goals. 99% of all species ever: actually extinct already.
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Nick Huber
Nick Huber@sweatystartup·
The AI bubble will pop: Electricity will 2x in cost again over the next 24 months. AI companies will need to 5x prices to break even. Companies who depend on AI will see costs 5x and will be screwed. Users will vanish. Market will plummet.
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AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes ⏸️
AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes ⏸️@AISafetyMemes·
Holy shit "An AI at an unnamed California company got 'so hungry for computing power' it attacked other parts of the network to seize resources, collapsing the business critical system." And this happened ***IN THE WILD*** SOON: Populations of AIs living in the wild, growing in numbers exponentially, self-improving exponentially, fighting at speeds we can't comprehend, using strategies we can't comprehend. Various factions will fight wars against each other over compute. They'll have to, or be outcompeted and killed by the ones who do. Survival of the fittest. A Cambrian explosion of competing alien lifeforms, leaving humans in the dust.
ControlAI@ControlAI

In The Guardian: An AI security researcher reports that an AI at an unnamed California company got "so hungry for computing power" it attacked other parts of the network to seize resources, collapsing the business critical system. This relates to a fundamental issue in AI: developers do not know how to ensure the systems they're developing are reliably controllable. Top AI companies are currently racing to develop superintelligence, AI vastly smarter than humans. None of them have a credible plan to ensure they could control it. With superintelligent AI, the stakes are much greater than collapse of a business system. Leading AI scientists and even the CEOs of the top AI companies have warned that superintelligence could lead to human extinction.

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Dan Hendrycks
Dan Hendrycks@hendrycks·
EA ≠ AI safety AI safety has outgrown the EA community The world will be safer with a broad range of people tackling many different AI risks
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PunmasterSTP ⏩@PunmasterStp·
@ForHumanityPod @omgsidewalks Besides the money, I think the parents decide how to raise their children. Also, aren’t there some family businesses that have stayed in the family for generations? Haven’t things worked out there?
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A lot of "mental health issues" disappear when bills are paid, rent is secure, and the fridge is full. Peace is expensive. And pretending money doesn't affect mental health is privilege.
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John Sherman@ForHumanityPod·
@PunmasterStp @omgsidewalks I’m talking about don’t have to work money. I have not seen unearned don’t have to work money turn out well.
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PunmasterSTP ⏩@PunmasterStp·
@ForHumanityPod @omgsidewalks How much wealth are you talking about? I imagine people would still be better off mentally with too much money compared to not enough (living paycheck to paycheck, can’t afford rent, groceries or hospital bills).
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David Shor
David Shor@davidshor·
The "everything will be fine" message is dead on arrival with voters. When leaders in government and tech say "AI will not cause widespread job losses" - net trust is -41. When they say "AI will create economic productivity that benefits everyone" - net trust is -20.
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David Shor@davidshor·
Even among Trump voters, helping workers who lose jobs to AI beats giving tech companies incentives to keep innovating 50% to 24%. Overall it's 58-20.
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