Early Genesis, the Revealed Cosmology

@Real_handle @_Ochiedike That is not the definition of proof. PROOF Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pro…

@MooreMark25706 @_Ochiedike But you said you could PROVE it. Do you retract that claim? If you don't retract that claim you need to admit you don't know the meaning of the word proof. Because if something is provable it would be unexplainable by other means. Can you PROVE it as you claimed?

Prove it without quoting the Bible.

@Real_handle @_Ochiedike or mathematics. But this is not a math problem. It is a historical question.

@Real_handle @_Ochiedike That standard of proof is unreasonable and not used in any other field of human endeavor outside a laboratory. It means as long as you can imagine some other answer, none of my evidence counts.

@stbe84 @Ernest1588761 He doesn't.

@MooreMark25706 @Ernest1588761 How does hitchens hate something that doesn't exist?

Who is right among them?

@Ernest1588761 How do you know this?

@MooreMark25706 Your god doesn't exist

Before I formed you in your mother's womb, I know you already. — Jeremiah 1:5 So you mean to tell me that Bible god created this baby with this tumor on purpose?

It doesn't matter how many times you ask, I've already done it. If you think my evidence doesn't count, it is up to you to say why. I am not the dog in a game of go fetch. You have to answer questions too. You have to defend your position too. Instead you just claim I haven't answered but won't explain why. You won't say what evidence would satisfy you. You are just playing a game that I do not wish to participate in.

@MooreMark25706 @_Ochiedike I'll ask again. Can you prove Genesis to be factual? Yes or no? If yes provide that PROOF. No more assumptions, belief, circular reasoning or God of the gaps. You have zero conviction in your claim that you can prove it.

@LucasGageX The text doesn't say God told them to take every kind in the world, it limits the list. Thus the flood wasn't global. youtu.be/NeUKj_KHAug?si…

Noah's Ark: All plant life would die. Water covered Mt. Everest—where did it go? 8 humans + 2 of every kind can't explain genetic diversity. Occurred ~2300 BCE, yet China, Egypt & India weren't flooded. No room for all the food, water, and animals for ~1 year, 10 days.

@Real_handle @_Ochiedike Then I've already done it. Christ changed human history outrageously out of proportion to His time and resources unless He really was who scripture says He was. And He affirmed Genesis. Maybe not the view of Genesis that the Jews and now the church have, but some view of it.

@MooreMark25706 @_Ochiedike I'll repeat myself, evidence would be anything that proves Genesis to be a FACT. The fact that you don't have confidence in anything you consider to be evidence proves that you can't prove your claim. I haven't moved any goalposts as I haven't changed the definition of fact.

@AtheistTakes It was scientists playing God that gave us the COVID virus.

@Ernest1588761 And since you just make endless variations of the same argument, Christians should just respond with the same answer every time, until you address it. youtu.be/-b3R-l9aT9w?si…

@DeeWaynee94 For once, we agree. youtu.be/OwVVHimOL4s?si…

The Bible doesn’t give this neat little “Satan was a fallen angel who rebelled out of pride” backstory the way you lot keep pretending it does.

@Real_handle @_Ochiedike I am afraid of wasting my time with a man who will keep moving the goal posts, not define what he will accept as evidence, or answer any meaningful question. What will you accept as evidence?

@MooreMark25706 @_Ochiedike I did answer your question. Can you establish Genesis as a fact? Do I really have to explain to you what a FACT is? If you're struggling, provide what you consider to be proof and I'll happily explain how it isn't. What are you afraid of?

@Real_handle @_Ochiedike You won't even define what you consider evidence. Then you accuse me of deflecting. Answer the question. I've answered yours.

@MooreMark25706 @_Ochiedike Do you know what the definition of proof is? Proof is Establishing a fact. You said you could prove Genesis to be factual. Belief, assumption, circular reasoning and the bible don't establish a fact. Can you prove Genesis factual? Yes or no? If yes do so, stop deflecting.

@mc_lively_ @Chizieblaze All of those are poison, and the fruit of that poison is apparent in the cultures where they dominate.

@Chizieblaze So which is poison? Islam? Buddhism? African religions? Hinduism?? What exactly is the poison? If you don’t know how to make analogies…maybe ask ChatGPT to help you😊

When I tell Christians that they only have the religion because their parents gave it to them…they always feel quite insulted then tell me “Well my parents introduced it to me but I found God for myself” I chose the religion. Then I ask… “Did your parents present to you all the religions…Islam, Christianity, Buddhism,African Religion, Obatala, Sango, Ifa, Hinduism, Judaism etc”… Did they present all these ideologies and teachings to you and then ask you to choose one?? They always end the conversation at this point.

@Real_handle @_Ochiedike That response is typical because you are a denier. You simply dismiss evidence. The way to deal with that is for you to tell us what you would consider evidence. Please proceed.

@MooreMark25706 @_Ochiedike Go on then, you say you can yet decline to do so. Let me guess, you'll come up with the typical theist response "you'll not believe me even if I do" which translates to "I know I only have assumption and belief, not actual proof"

@BuBdyc That just means that God the Son is not omniscient, not that the Son is not also God, of the same nature as the Father. YHWH in the OT was mostly Him and explains a lot. youtu.be/YuK8Wng3Cec?si…

Jesus made it clear that he's not GOD almighty Was Jesus lying? or is it you might have been lied too..

@GhostOfStoneyX2 In a decent society it would be illegal.

Gay men adopt baby boys so they can rape them. Lesbian women adopt baby boys because they hate men and corrupt the boys. Seen it with my own eyes, they never had a chance. Little boy wearing floral dresses and lipstick to family events. Fucked.

@Real_handle @_Ochiedike Yes.

@MooreMark25706 @_Ochiedike Incorrect! The fact that any story relating to God can't be proven factual, classifies the story as DEFINABLY FICTIONAL. You prove that by failing to provide proof of the stories being factual. Can you prove Genesis factual? Yes or no?