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NateTalksToYou

@NateTalksToYou

Social commentator • Secularist • Utilitarian YouTube: https://t.co/0sdaSALLqd Patreon: https://t.co/F2Ln3Sinx8

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NateTalksToYou@NateTalksToYou·
1. "It's self evident" isn't an argument. It's a fallacy. Just because something feels true to you doesn't make it so, as the data cited before demonstrates. logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallaci… 2. An increase of people in the country means an increased demand for various services. An increase in demand for services means an increased demand for labor.
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ThunderousApplause@ThunderousAppl3·
@NateTalksToYou I didn’t ask about crime, but dubious. Immigrants absolutely hurt wages. An increased supply of cheap foreign labor inherently lowers the demand for domestic labor. This is self evident.
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NateTalksToYou@NateTalksToYou·
1. Undocumented immigrants commit less crime than the general population. news.wisc.edu/undocumented-i… 2. Undocumented immigrants don't harm wages. "A review by Giovanni Peri of more than 270 estimates from 27 published studies found that the average effect of immigration on native-born wages is essentially zero.” epi.org/publication/un…
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ThunderousApplause@ThunderousAppl3·
@NateTalksToYou Cool. So what are the numbers on just illegal immigrants? And what has their cost been to society? Measured in societal divisiveness and suppressed wages.
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NateTalksToYou@NateTalksToYou·
"I gave you data for just one group proving you wrong" Except you didn't provide any data. You claimed that such data existed from AEI, yet never provided a citation for it. I'm not going to believe AEI said something just because you claim they did. x.com/AvDebateEnjoye… Furthermore, even if undocumented immigrants cost the country 180 billion, that doesn't factor in how much they contribute to the country. Keep in mind the CATO study also says immigrants cost the country billions, but the data shows that these costs are offset by their contributions.
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@NateTalksToYou As soon as you leave CATO and look at AEI you see yearly illegals cost 180 billion and put in at highest estimates 100 billion.

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AverageDebateEnjoyer@AvDebateEnjoyer·
@NateTalksToYou It’s not me that is having trouble understanding. This is ILLEGAL AND LEGAL and when you just isolate illegal the costs go negative you absolute retard. Your data lumps both, I gave you data for just one group proving you wrong and you ignore it and go back to both.
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NateTalksToYou@NateTalksToYou·
@AvDebateEnjoyer What part of "Immigrants—legal and illegal—paid more in taxes every single year than they received in benefits" do you not understand? It's not just documented immigrants that benefit the system. It's undocumented immigrants as well. What do you get out of ignoring that?
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AverageDebateEnjoyer@AvDebateEnjoyer·
@NateTalksToYou I did and it says exactly what I claimed. You lumped in illegals with a much larger much more responsible group to obfuscate and when called out you flat out admit it. Moron
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AverageDebateEnjoyer@AvDebateEnjoyer·
@NateTalksToYou He said illegal aliens, you pivoting to all immigrants when talking about illegals is a lie everyone can see dumbass.
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NateTalksToYou@NateTalksToYou·
These same results have been corroborated by other studies. From the National Bureau of Economic Research: “Using the NBER TAXSIM program, we estimate that refugees pay $21,000 more in taxes than they receive in benefits over their first 20 years in the U.S.” nber.org/papers/w23498
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NateTalksToYou@NateTalksToYou·
From Cato Institute: "Immigrants—legal and illegal—paid more in taxes every single year than they received in benefits, broadly defined, and the gap has grown over time." cato.org/blog/cato-stud…
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Mr. Beat
Mr. Beat@beatmastermatt·
Birthright citizenship is constitutional. Duh
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NateTalksToYou@NateTalksToYou·
@PostLeftWatch "I can't be doing it for the money! I drive a cheap car!" Where have I heard that before?
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Post-Left Watch (postleftwatch.bsky.social)@PostLeftWatch·
Ana Kasparian has a meltdown over being called a grifter (the segment is about AOC, AOC never called her a grifter), claims she's not a grifter because she has a junky car, and then complains about everyone else calling her a grifter
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NateTalksToYou@NateTalksToYou·
I met Donald Trump this weekend.
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New York Post@nypost·
Unlucky beauty pageant contestant shocks viewers after losing her teeth mid-speech - then bravely continues on trib.al/voI8mdR
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NateTalksToYou@NateTalksToYou·
Internet racists in a nutshell.
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