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I’m starting to think a lot of the Amils (at least on X) just hate Jews and use their theology as a “godly“ way to find approval for it.
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Never Reformed
@NeverReformed
Solas 👍 TULIP 👍 Reformed Theology 👎 I’m here to talk pre-mil, pre-trib eschatology and how the modern reformed movement has become Catholicism-lite
Nashville, TN เข้าร่วม Mayıs 2026
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@OntheMountInc @TrevorSheatz Even when I get called a stupid dispy? 😂😂
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God hasn’t given us a spirit of fear. May we never be afraid to engage in respectful, thoughtful, and Bible-centered discussions about our faith on social media.
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The Old Testament never made sense to me until I read it in context and understood that God was making these promises to actual Jews from 1800 BC to roughly 500 BC.
For instance, the new covenant was made with the house of Israel and Judah. Somehow, I had never noticed that before. But as soon as I realized it, that made Romans 9-11 completely open up to my eyes in ways it never had before. And other New Testament passages as well.
But most importantly, this newfound way of reading the Old Testament (for me) gave me a greater, deeper appreciation for the faithfulness of God. That His love for us depends not on our performance, but simply because He chose to love us.
Which I “knew” that beforehand, but somehow the Holy Spirit opened that up in a way that has just absolutely floored me in the past year.
And so, because of that, I expect He’ll keep his word to the Jews. Just as I know He will keep his word to me. Because their salvation one day, and my salvation today, does not depend on us being perfectly faithful. It depends on His word, which is truth. His word which is unchangeable. And as He says many times in Ezekiel because He has said it, He will do it.
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The funny thing is I actually agree with a lot of this. I don’t want to impose a system on the Bible (my big issue with Covenant Theology and redemptive-historical interpretation).
I want the Bible to teach me what it’s saying (I know the response will be that the Bible itself interprets redemptive-historically and I just don’t see it).
I also agree that the New Testament should interpret the Old Testament where it explicitly does so. You can’t get a more authoritative interpretation than that.
Though I will admit I’m dispensational leaning, I don’t see the story of the Bible as about Israel. But can I say something possibly controversial?
I don’t see redemption as the story of the Bible either.
I see the story of the Bible as being about the glory of God which is increasingly revealed to us through human history with the centerpiece of that glory being Jesus. And each of the successive covenants is God revealing more of Himself and His glory to us.
And finally, I pretty much ignored the Old Testament for most of my Christian life until the past year. The only parts I interacted with were the ones that are quoted in the New Testament. And the reason why was because when I would read the Old Testament, I tried to see the church everywhere, looking for that spiritual meaning, and a lot of it just made zero sense to me.
It honestly wasn’t until I started reading the Prophets in context (Jewish prophet taking to real Jewish people) that 1 Thessalonians, 2 Peter, Olivet Discourse, and Revelation really started opening up to my eyes. And I discovered that God‘s glory really is shown throughout human history, and will be shown at an apex at the end of human history, by His faithfulness to His promises. Obviously, the promises were to the nation of Israel in the Old Testament. So when He completes them, we will all be able to say that God is truly faithful. (Direct application to the church: He saves those whom He says He will).
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I can’t say that I see this. I do see a lot of over the top criticism of him, though. So that may be what triggers it.
And I think a lot of that over the top criticism is because you can’t really pin him down. He was Calvinistic, but not reformed. Pre-trib and pre-mil, but not actually dispensational. And unapologetically preached the hard truths of scripture that our culture dislikes, like women submitting their husbands, homosexuality is sin, etc.
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The amount of “touch not the Lords anointed” energy when someone critiques JMac is effervescent.
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I started off my Evangelical Christian life as a typical pre-trib, pre-mil, dispensationalist.
Becoming Reformed and amil was a wonderful liberation.
It allowed me to follow the scriptures rather than imposing a system on the Scriptures. When we allow the New Testament to interpret the Old and when we allow the New Testament to teach us how to read the Bible rather than appropriating a 19th-century German critical approach, it turns out that the Bible's own interpretation is rather different from what I was taught as a young evangelical.
It turns out the Bible was about Christ and not about national Israel.
That's not sad. That's wonderful!
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This reply completely misses @RScottClark point.
No serious covenant theologian argues that “genre” gives interpreters license to allegorize texts into arbitrary theological systems. That is a caricature.
Clark’s point is much more basic and historically grounded: genre is essential to authorial intent and therefore essential to grammatical-historical interpretation itself. In other words, grammar never exists in a vacuum.
Words, syntax, imagery, symbolism, metaphor, poetry, apocalyptic language, typology, narrative structure, covenantal context, and literary form all contribute to meaning. That is precisely why genre matters.
Ironically, this post's own examples prove Clark’s point:
hyperbole,
simile,
idiom,
metaphor.
Those cannot even be recognized properly apart from literary context and genre.
Apocalyptic literature is not read identically to historical narrative. Poetry is not read identically to legal prose. Parables are not interpreted identically to epistles. That is not allegorization. That is basic hermeneutics.
Even more importantly, the New Testament itself repeatedly interprets the Old Testament typologically and redemptive-historically:
Adam as a type of Christ,
the Passover lamb fulfilled in Christ,
the temple fulfilled in Christ,
the sacrificial system fulfilled in Christ,
Sarah and Hagar typologically interpreted by Paul,
Israel’s wilderness experience applied typologically to the church.
So the real issue is not whether typology exists. The Apostles themselves use it constantly. The issue is whether one’s hermeneutic is broad enough to account for the Apostolic interpretation of Scripture itself.
Stephen Angliss 📖@Stephen_Angliss
No, genre is not a part of grammar. At least not to the extent you're suggesting. Idioms, hyperbole, simile--like all features of grammar, remain the same whether they appear in a poem, parable, or epistle. Genre is not a license to allegorize a text into a theological system.
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Yeah, I get it. The “millennium” is just this church age, all spiritual, no literal kingdom coming.
But I can’t see that in Scripture. The NT uses types & shadows from the OT, sure, but those point to a REAL future fulfillment: Christ reigning physically on earth, Israel regathered, promises kept.
This broken world ain’t it. Come Lord Jesus.
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I mean some parts of the Gospel imply that Christ did not know things. He voluntarily gave up usage of His full range of Divine attributes. Ultimately, this is a mystery and one we shouldn’t stumble on.
SOMEHOW infinite God became a finite man without compromising His traits of either.
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Imagine how large New Earth will be to accommodate such a large city and still have more planet to explore! It will be amazing!
Open Minded Approach@OMApproach
The size of New Jerusalem, which descends from Heaven after the Apocalypse, is 12,000 stadia on each side. That equals roughly 1,380–1,500 miles (2,220–2,400 km) in length, width, and height. It would stretch roughly from New York to Texas or across much of Europe. New Jerusalem is the dwelling place of God, the Lamb (Christ), angels, and the redeemed, transformed, and transfigured people of God. The New Jerusalem is not a black cube like the current fallen state of the world, where the blackness represents the veil. It will be golden because it signifies the alchemical process of purifying the soul and turning ore into gold. It is the dwelling place of God, where Enoch also walks. Here is a comparison of the size of New Jerusalem with North America, Europe, and Africa. Did you know that there is currently a project developed by humans to create a massive golden cube with the Tower of Babel inside?
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@sola_chad The term for them is “grifters”. As politics has replaced religion, these are the new prosperity gospel preachers.
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Dan Bilzerian, Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, and Tucker Carlson are neither Christians, nor are they “America First.”
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@Shh94888302 This is taking it too far. I think that such a person is wrong, but the reality is a good majority of Protestantism is amil - some of them don’t even think antichrist is a singular person.
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@candle84640 I have assumed for a while that would be your own native language. So you could be speaking to a Jew and an Italian, and everybody would hear their own language and everybody would speak their own language. Essentially it be “auto translated” if you will.
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Which language do you think will be spoken in the millenial kingdom? Could it be the original language of Adam, the Hebrew of Moses, or the Aramaic Jesus spoke 2000 years ago?
Zephaniah 3:9
“For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.”
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Yeah yeah, that’s the normal accusation. I can say I’ve never done any kind of formal education in theology nor have I read Left Behind. I became a Christian at 13. And I’ve just read scripture as well as various pastors and authors. I’m aware of the different views, but the one that makes most sense to me is the plain sense reading of the text.
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@NeverReformed @ParamountChurch @RScottClark Your misinterpretation of Ezekiel 40-48 is so inexcusable and extreme in light of the rest of the scripture that it cannot be an intellectual issue. I’ve asked people who came out of the system and they had emotional attachments, sometimes from Left Behind.
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Few things are more disheartening than the Amil approach to eschatology.
This world we’re in right now is the “kingdom”? With homosexuals and trannies, abortion, murder, mass false religion, and more.
How depressing!
A Cloistered Hermeneutic@Exodus15_11
The coming literal theocratic-Davidic Kingdom will be beyond anything we have known. The Lord returns to incarcerate the Devil and to begin His reign on earth at Zion. It's past time for preachers to get their eschatology correct and flush the nonsense of the Amillennial slop.
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@osasisHERESY I know you don’t believe this, but if all Jews believe in Jesus at his 2nd coming, would it be fair to say that all of Israel is God’s people at that point?
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Only believing jews are God's people like only believing gentiles are
That's the church
Unbelieving jews are not Gods people like unbelieving gentiles are not God's people
This is easy to understand
Awaiting Christ@AwaitingChrist
Last I checked "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." That includes the Jews as they're part the world. Since folks like you seem more than willing to throw them under the bus, someone has to stand for them to minister and share the Gospel with them.
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@Witness5417 @salt_icxc Rev 19 and 20. Literally read it all. What I said is in there
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Pre-tribulation rapture is such a pernicious doctrine because it lulls believers into a false sense of security at exactly the moment when they should be preparing their hearts to suffer and endure to the end.
Anyone who proclaims this false doctrine is like Peter saying to Jesus “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!” (Matt 16:22)
And our response to them should mirror Christ’s response:
“Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.” (Matt 16:23)
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My experience with this type of preaching was that it led many congregants to frustration and despair.
Why? Because they were asking “Am I really saved? Have I actually been regenerated? I mentally believe all the stuff, but is it real or am I a false convert?”
And the answer was “look to Christ. Rest in His work”.
Stating the objective work of Christ doesn’t help people to know if that objective work has actually been applied to them.
What does? Evidence of spiritual life. I.e. Fruit. 2 Peter 1.
I have many issues with redemptive historical interpretation and preaching, but this was the biggest one while I was at that church.
Jim Lincoln@JimLincoln1517
Redemptive-historical preaching warmly calls sinners to rest in Christ’s finished work through the pattern of guilt, grace, and gratitude. Experimental preaching keeps the hearer looking inward through suspicion of false faith and a continual search for the marks of grace.
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All Calvinists have election wrong.
There are two different things called election in scripture. One is about Israel (Jacob). This is not about individuals, but rather God’s promise to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Romans 11:26-29,32 KJV
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: [27] For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. [28] As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. [29] For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. [32] For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
The second is about us, the individual.
1 Thessalonians 1:4 KJV
Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.
2 Peter 1:9-11 KJV
But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. [10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: [11] For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Peter makes it clear that the individual has responsibility to make his election sure. How? By placing your trust in Jesus, and seeking Him.
Peter starts this section by declaring that seeing God clearly gives us access to God’s nature. This is all of faith.
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