OzCableguy

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OzCableguy

OzCableguy

@OzCableguy

Pro-science, pro harm reduction, anti-BS, IT guy, love bicycling. Vapes worked for me when nothing else did. Prohibition is a missed opportunity.

เข้าร่วม Ağustos 2014
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Alan CMA
Alan CMA@Algore09algor·
At first glance, Simon Chapman's submission acknowledges something important: cheap illicit tobacco is now widespread, highly accessible, and eroding the price barrier that once discouraged smoking. But rather than follow that logic to its obvious conclusion that extreme taxation has created the conditions for this market, he instead bends over backwards to deny the role price plays in driving it. This is the central contradiction in his argument. Chapman repeatedly states that price is a “universally acknowledged” driver of smoking behaviour. Yet when that same principle applies to illicit markets where a $7 pack competes against a $40–$60 legal product, he suddenly dismisses price as irrelevant. You can’t have it both ways. If price reduces consumption, then extreme price gaps will inevitably redirect consumption. That’s not ideology, that’s basic economics. His attempt to argue that illicit trade exists everywhere, regardless of tax levels, is another sleight of hand. Of course, illicit markets exist globally, but the scale, visibility, and violence attached to Australia’s market are what make it exceptional. Open, shopfront sales. Delivery services advertised on trees and social media. Firebombings. Turf wars. That’s not business-as-usual, it’s a market supercharged by unprecedented margins. And this is where Chapman’s dismissal of James Martin becomes particularly telling. Martin’s work doesn’t rely on rhetoric - it reflects well-established criminological principles: when profit margins are extreme, organised crime will enter and expand. Australia has effectively engineered one of the most lucrative black markets in the world through policy settings that pushed legal prices far beyond what enforcement alone can control. Ignoring that doesn’t make it untrue, it just avoids the uncomfortable implication that policy has backfired. Chapman’s arithmetic argument that even large tax cuts wouldn’t undercut illicit prices is also overly simplistic. Illicit markets don’t operate in a vacuum. They respond to risk, enforcement pressure, and margins. Narrow the gap, and you reduce the incentive structure. Leave a 500–800% margin in place, and no amount of policing will keep pace. Perhaps most concerning is his continued defence of the pharmacy-only vape model. In theory, it mirrors tightly controlled systems like pharmaceuticals. In reality, it has failed. Consumers didn’t migrate to pharmacies; they migrated to the black market. The result? Less regulated access, not more. More illicit supply, not less. And, increasingly, evidence that some users are shifting back to smoking as legal alternatives become harder to access. Instead of acknowledging this, Chapman frames the issue almost entirely as a failure of enforcement and compliance. But enforcement cannot overcome economics at this scale. When the reward is enormous, and the risk historically has been low, criminal participation isn’t an anomaly. It’s predictable. There’s also a broader tone throughout the submission that’s hard to ignore. Critics are caricatured as “economically illiterate” or industry-aligned, rather than engaged with seriously. That might work rhetorically, but it doesn’t address the substance of the argument. And increasingly, that argument is being made not just by commentators, but by criminologists, economists, and even policymakers who are starting to acknowledge that the current approach is unsustainable. In the end, Chapman is right about one thing: Australia is facing a serious illicit tobacco crisis. But his refusal to recognise the role that extreme pricing and restrictive policy settings have played in creating that crisis means his proposed solutions are more enforcement, harsher penalties, and tighter controls, which risk doubling down on the very conditions that allowed it to emerge in the first place. When policy creates a market this profitable, ignoring the economic drivers doesn’t solve the problem. It entrenches it.
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Charles A. Gardner, PhD
Charles A. Gardner, PhD@ChaunceyGardner·
Banning flavored nicotine vapes causes cigarette sales to increase wherever implemented. Cigarettes KILL PEOPLE, so these bans will kill people.
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The Netherlands banned vape flavours. Youth vaping doubled. Cigarette use went up. 27% of former vapers said they smoked more or relapsed. And the @EU_Commission pointed to this as a success Just another day in tobacco control industry la-la-land. 🤪 brusselstimes.com/2076002/dutch-…

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Prohibition Does Not Work
🇳🇱 The Netherlands banned flavoured vapes: 👉 Youth vaping doubled. 👉 Cigarette consumption rose. 👉 27% of former vapers reported increased cigarette consumption. PROHIBITION DOES NOT WORK! brusselstimes.com/2076002/dutch-…
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Prof Marewa Glover
Prof Marewa Glover@MarewaGlover·
It’s an election year in NZ so the usual political footballs are being hauled out of the basement. Everything has to sound like an alarming disaster. The black market in tobacco is always there. It wouldn’t be there if no one wanted to smoke. The real problem is the protection racket - protecting the cigarette trade and smoking by denying people access to the alternative products that are rapidly displacing cigarettes🚬. Keeping people smoking is partly by design (manipulated by those profiting from smoking 🚬) and the astounding incompetence of the maleable under-qualified people now in positions of influence. The fastest, less costly solution is to repeal the stupid dumb ban on tobacco-free oral nicotine pouches! Let people have access to another highly effective way to stop smoking. Don’t apply tobacco excise tax to it. Plus, remove the 50% tax on heated tobacco products, if they’re still on the market. Smart and science-based. Other than that the only taskforce needed is one that looks at how to stop the anti-vaping lies propagated to scare people off vaping and back to smoking. Stop funding any health NGO, Trust, or company that is disseminating untruthful, scientifically debunked anti-nicotine slop.
William McGimpsey🇳🇿@TheZeitgeistNZ

The black market in tobacco products has grown to over 25% of total consumption in NZ. Now there are calls for a government taskforce to address it. But the real issue here is regulatory failure. Tobacco is overtaxed beyond the pigouvian level and so people are finding ways around it. Just reduce the excise tax rather than pouring a whole heap of government resources into a taskforce. Read more - nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/ca…

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Charles A. Gardner, PhD
Charles A. Gardner, PhD@ChaunceyGardner·
@ministerVWS @_NVWA You just "discovered" that bans do not make things magically go away? And you just realized bans drive things underground, into the hands of criminals who sell with no age checks? Huh. Ask Australia how that's all working out for them...
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Charles A. Gardner, PhD
Charles A. Gardner, PhD@ChaunceyGardner·
When a field of public health's only health interventions are STIGMA and COERCION (taxes and bans), and that has been the approved state-of-the-art for decades... and it's not working, maybe you need a rethink.
Alan CMA@Algore09algor

Still Smoking, Still Failing: What This Study Reveals About a System Stuck in the Past @jamomartin @drjoesDIYhealth @Anne_Ruston @MarewaGlover @caphraorg @Clive_Bates @ChaunceyGardner open.substack.com/pub/09algor/p/…

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We Vape
We Vape@WeVapeUK·
No, this new “vaping causes cancer” study doesn’t show that. Not even close. What it actually is: • Not new research • Not a systematic review • No clear method for selecting studies • No criteria for proving causation In plain terms: it’s an opinion-led narrative dressed up as science. Experts across UK universities are unusually aligned on this:
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Martin C
Martin C@NannyFreeState·
The Australian branch of the tobacco control industry is quaffing champagne today to toast more stunning success in their efforts to protect cigarettes from competition. 🍾🥳🥂
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OzCableguy@OzCableguy·
@7NewsBrisbane If they had banned banks from charging merchants, that could save money. This just means that shops have to add the cost into their prices so even people who don't use cards will pay it.
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7NEWS Queensland
7NEWS Queensland@7NewsBrisbane·
The surcharge on everything we buy on credit or debit cards is being scrapped with the Reserve Bank banning the fee from October. The move will save Australians $1.6B a year, but small businesses are worried they'll have to pass on the cost.
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7NEWS Queensland
7NEWS Queensland@7NewsBrisbane·
A lethal link between e-cigarettes and cancer has been uncovered in new research by Australian scientists. The study found vapes are just as harmful as conventional cigarettes as their popularity continues to soar.
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Charles A. Gardner, PhD
Charles A. Gardner, PhD@ChaunceyGardner·
Australia: "...we have pursued one of the most draconian anti-smoking policy agendas in the world, with disappointing results. Our smoking rates are now higher than New Zealand, USA & Sweden, [and] our tobacco black market is the worst in the world. austaxpayers.substack.com/p/legalise-vap…
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Pippa Starr - Let's Improve Vaping Education! 🇦🇺
The current fuel crisis effects everyone! Now the price of doing hit jobs and firebombings is going up! What a time to be alive! 🤦‍♀️
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Alan CMA
Alan CMA@Algore09algor·
The interesting part of this argument is how closely it mirrors the situation in Australia. In Australia, the dominant public health narrative increasingly follows the same pattern described in the blog. Leading figures such as Simon Chapman and organisations like the Cancer Council Australia frequently frame vaping not as a harm-reduction alternative but as simply another tobacco threat. Messaging often emphasises addiction, youth uptake, and unknown harms while giving little attention to the role vaping may play in displacing cigarette smoking. tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2026/03/tobacc… The analysis argues that tobacco control groups mislead the public by claiming switching to vaping isn’t quitting smoking. Ironically, Australian tobacco control does the same. When vaping is framed as just another tobacco threat, the crucial difference between combustion and non-combustion gets blurred.
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Sky News Australia
Sky News Australia@SkyNewsAust·
Anthony Albanese is being urged to slash tobacco excise by half amid warnings it has created the world's "worst" illicit tobacco market and ripped $11 billion from the federal budget. skynews.com.au/australia-news…
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OzCableguy@OzCableguy·
@DavidCrisafulli As expected, you listened solely to motoring and pedestrian orgs and other bike haters, and completely ignored the voices of people who actually use e-mobility devices. Massive failure and unintended consequences ahead.
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David Crisafulli
David Crisafulli@DavidCrisafulli·
We promised we’d take action on e-bikes and e-scooters, and this week we’re introducing new laws into Parliament to keep Queenslanders safe.
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