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@DrJillStein @SenateDems @SenateGOP when will you finally have the balls to step up and put a stop to this inhuman and grotesque action? This is destroying America's credibility for generations to come! Your legacy and your soul will be shamed forever.

Congress just authorized the sale of 132 bulldozers to Israel for this very purpose. Democrat Chuck Schumer helped lead the way. A bipartisan war crime.

🇱🇧🇮🇱 BREAKING: Israel has just destroyed the hospital in Tebnine, southern Lebanon with a direct airstrike. Several children dead. Legacy media is silent.

@AuspiciousTimes @digitalzoltan @magyarpeterMP @DrTamasSulyok I never thought of that. Thank you for this.

@Podrivel @digitalzoltan @magyarpeterMP @DrTamasSulyok Perhaps your culture and Hungarian culture differs vastly in this respect? Ever thought of this?

I have arrived at the Sándor Palace to meet the President of Hungary. @DrTamasSulyok is unworthy of representing the unity of the Hungarian nation. He is unfit to serve as the guardian of legality. He is not fit to serve as a moral authority or a role model. Following the formation of the new government, Tamás Sulyok must leave office immediately.

@_taylorhudak That's a quick jump to conclusions, ain't it? We don't know what will be done, nor how it will be done.

Peter Magyar and his TISZA government are going to help set up for the complete and total control of the Hungarian media. The media will not be independent nor will it be free. It will be subservient to the European Board for Media Services.

@cibiscosisagain @amuse I don't disagree rgd Russia, but I do disagree with the belief that the EU is a benign alliance looking out for the rights, well-being and soveriegnty of its members. It has its own political motives that many times go against the interests of its members states.

@Podrivel @amuse One side is destructive and nefarious, using dirty, underhanded, illegal tactics at the expense of civilians with endless money. The other side is trying to defend itself and the alliance against subversion. They are not the same. They are not equal, certainly not morally.

@cibiscosisagain @amuse We can agree both sides did what they could to turn the election their direction. I think we can also agree that the EU has a much wider toolbox and leverage at its disposal than Russia does.

@Podrivel @amuse I agree, sovereing elections should be off-limits to that kind of pressure. In Hungary's case that pressure came from Russia (whose interest is to weaken the EU) with dirty tricks. Defending against that pressure should be a non-controversial position.

We're not talking about a couple counter-measures. The EU used asymmetric institutional power to systemically produce a specific outcome. ie. economic coercion, NGO actions and media funding. To me that's the definition of engineering. By admitting that we are not ignoring real Hungarian discontent, Russia's meddling, and the fact that voters overwhelmingly chose Tisza. But call it what you will. Either "engineering" or "defending EU values" depends on whether you think sovereign elections should be off-limits to that kind of pressure.

@Podrivel @amuse how is countermeasures against outside influence "engineering"? If I worry about thieves and robbers, I'm not being "engineered" if I get an intruder alarm from my friend.

@cibiscosisagain @amuse another point to support an EU engineering

@Podrivel @amuse That's still very vague and theoretical, but more defensible. Given that Hungary is in the EU, & Russia had vested interest in keeping Orbán in power, it would make sense for counter-intelligence measures to make sure no outside force disrupts the elections in a member state.

@cibiscosisagain @amuse maybe a more precise wording would be that the EU supported and incentivized the outcome through several institutional and policy means - overt and covert - at it's disposal, to ride and amplify the growing discontent among the Hungarian population.

@Podrivel @amuse The article claimed the EU engineered the outcome. That is pure bullshit. There is no 4D chess, no globohomo conspiracy. Just voters getting rid of a corrupt, traitorous bastard. It was a domestic matter, not a global strategy move. Hungary's importance is way over-inflated.

@cibiscosisagain @amuse I agree with everything you said. Nothing in that viewpoint invalidates the article imo.

@Podrivel @amuse The goals of the EU and the gripes of the voters are not mutually exclusive. However, it's not a conspiracy or global 6D chess game because their goals are aligned. Orbán was a corrupt traitor who sold his soul and his values to Russia. He had to go.

Why are the gripes of Hungarian voters and EU goals mutually exclusive? There has to be real discontent upon which to create the momentum. That discontent can further be amplified through withholding of funds using violation of EU values excuses. That would only reinforce reality.

@Podrivel @amuse This analysis has no grounding in reality though. The hungarian voters voted on domestic issues: crumbling institutions, wrecked economy, obscene levels of corruption and Orbán being in bed with Putin. EU had fuckall to do with it.

@EuroDale a grand con of historic proportions. Would even include a divorce for Peter... The extent incumbents will be investigated and prosecuted will be revealing. Captivating theory. Seems almost too grand to be plausible.

@Podrivel - Péter, to pull this off, we gotta go all the way. No half-measures. No holes barred. It will be brutal. From the moment you announce your campaign we are enemies. Do you understand? - Yes, Viktor. For Hungary.

I like the theory that Orbán and Magyar agreed years ago that Magyar was going to be Orbán's successor. They set Magyar up as the 'opposition' and tricked every liberal and globalist into supporting his campaign. Thus giving the new leadership a legitimacy it would never have if it had simply been appointed by Orbán.

@actsmaniac Why do you want to vote for a corrupt and incompetent wokist or a zionist?

If Hungarian leftists can manage to vote for Peter Magyar, then american leftists should also be able to vote for Newsom or Shapiro or whoever

Fantastic analysis. We'll see soon enough whether Magyar is a pragmatic nationalist, looking to strike a tough balancing act between being EU leaning and retaining sovereignty, or whether it's a grand con against either side. So far the rhetoric points towards pragmatism, but actions will soon speak louder than words.

Ana Kasparian just read the most damning report on Israel's prisons. Sexual torture is organized state policy, endorsed by the highest authorities. Women are raped for days. Men are raped by dogs. Fire extinguisher nozzles are inserted into bodies. This is how western media's moral state defend itself and they refuse to report. Rape as state policy. Torture as organized practice. Women and men are violated in the most brutal ways

@_DavoRavo @magyarpeterMP @DrTamasSulyok What does that say about your opinion of my opinion?

@Podrivel @magyarpeterMP @DrTamasSulyok So funny you think your opinion matters

On a long train ride, a Han Chinese played the erhu, a Kazakh played the dombra, and three Uyghurs played the rawap and gijak. Together, they performed the Mongolian piece Horse Racing, bringing the dull journey to life with the sound of their traditional ethnic instruments.😌😌😌

@JavorszkyP @daniels55 You're right. We should all strive to be like Orange guy.

@Podrivel @daniels55 No, this ideology has to stop, it does not work against autocratic rule. Did not work against the castle pig and did not work against the orange guy