Powers Decoded | Systems • Class • Truth
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Powers Decoded | Systems • Class • Truth
@PowersDecoded
Class, Power and Systems explained plainly. Value truth over comfort. Reposts + analysis. ⚖️
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ racialized threat and gender-norm policing still explain why boys perceived as feminine face more harassment and negative attention. Keep shifting the claim, but the data on observable outcomes still backs my point, not yours. It was nice chatting with you though.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ Again, goalpost moving. Your claim started as femininity reduces penalties or signals less disruption. You’ve now shifted to masculinity increases scrutiny. That’s not the same argument, and it doesn’t contradict the mechanism I described:
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ (1/2) That’s fine, but my point is about causal mechanisms for teacher perceptions and outcomes, not the broader universe of all possible factors. The literature I cited isolates two empirically supported mechanisms that directly explain disparities in treatment and outcomes:
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ Great, got it… but that’s a different claim. Saying gender perceptions affect performance doesn’t magically show femininity reduces harassment or discipline, the evidence (for the 50th time) points the other way.
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@PowersDecoded @LexDiamonds__ That's fine because I'm not limiting my scope to academic performance as it relates to threat response, discipline or harassment.
I'm talking about how gender perceptions impact academic performance.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ Simply noting that stereotypes exist doesn’t demonstrate that femininity reduces negative academic consequences for Black boys, which was the claim you and others have made.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ Im aware of that and that’s exactly why my mechanism still stands. I’m not denying that perceptions exist; I’m highlighting the empirically supported pathways through which those perceptions translate into structural outcomes, namely, racialized threat and gender-norm policing.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ you describe actually reduce disciplinary actions or improve outcomes, because the literature I know shows the opposite: these experiences tend to compound negative attention and risk, not mitigate it.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ Exactly, this is why your claim doesn’t hold without data. Femininity increases harassment or negativity’ is not the same as it lowering academic penalties or signaling less disruption. I’m asking for empirical evidence showing that the types of harassment or negativity
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ if anything, it increases negative attention. Saying boys are perceived as less intelligent doesn’t explain reduced discipline or better outcomes, which is what your claim implied. Am I wrong?
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ Ok sure, stereotypes about intelligence or discipline exist but my point is about mechanisms that actually drive observable outcomes like disciplinary action or harassment. The evidence linking femininity to lower penalties or perceptions of being less disruptive doesn’t exist,
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@LexDiamonds__ @Slowburnt2 Lmao the only person that can’t read “bruh” is your slow ass. Now I know it’s gone be difficult but do your best to keep up.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ Showing that students perceive Black boys as academically incapable doesn’t contradict (or validate) the effect of racialized threat and gender norm policing on discipline and harassment. They’re related topics, but not the same research question. Are you okay?
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ That study measures students’ perceptions of academic ability, not how teachers discipline or surveil boys perceived as feminine. My mechanism is about teacher behavior and structural outcomes, not peer stereotypes about competence.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ (2/2) racialized threat and gender-norm policing. If you’re claiming femininity lowers academic penalties or signals less disruption, please provide data, because AGAIN, the evidence shows the opposite: femininity often increases harassment and negativity, not decreases it.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ So nonothing in that study contradicts the mechanism I described. It’s just a different research question.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ That paper is about students’ stereotypes regarding academic competence by gender. The claim under discussion is about discipline, surveillance, and behavioral expectations in schools. Those are entirely different variables.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ I’m not aware of any data showing femininity makes teachers treat boys as less disruptive or unintelligent. If you have it, cite it… Please
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ That’s an assertion, not evidence. The literature identifies two mechanisms: racialized threat stereotypes affecting discipline for Black boys, and gender-norm policing that increases harassment for boys perceived as feminine.
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@Slowburnt2 @LexDiamonds__ So respectfully, I’m going to leave it there. The empirical literature already addresses this and supports the mechanism I described. Reframing the point over and over doesn’t change what the research shows and it’s not the above.
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@PowersDecoded @LexDiamonds__ The racialized threat perception is gendered.
The more 'male' a black boy/man seems, the higher the threat perception. We also observe this in the treatment of transwomen who don't 'pass' vs those who do.
Masculinity is rewarded in some contexts, yet punished in others.

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