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@trevgoes4th @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok Projection!

@SimonM_72 @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok you are mentally ill

Sir Keir Starmer has said that he is "fed up" with households and businesses seeing their energy bills rise because of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin The prime minister told @Peston Britain needs greater "energy independence" to reduce its exposure to the international markets As @DPJHodges says it's quite the quote - he's directly accusing Trump of pushing people's energy bills up and comparing the impact of his actions to those of Putin "I'm fed up with the fact that families across the country see their bills go up and down on energy, businesses' bills go up and down on energy because of the actions of Putin or Trump across the world and saying to families across the country, saying to businesses across the country: 'We've just got to be, we've got to put up with being on the international market.' "We need energy independence, and the only way to get energy independence is to go even more quickly to renewables because we're not going to get it on the international market."

@trevgoes4th @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok And there is an admission that your numbers are fictitious. Slam dunk!

@SimonM_72 @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok there are no sources because we don't frack you dribbling retards

@trevgoes4th @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok You haven’t looked at anything, still no source for your numbers! You have had plenty of time to research during this conversation, how come you can’t back up your numbers?

@Steve54589280 @SimonM_72 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok and we haven't even looked at fracking because they literally banned it

@Steve54589280 @trevgoes4th @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok Are you going to provide a source for your numbers or not?

@SimonM_72 @trevgoes4th @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok It currently generates £5-6b a year, down from £9-10b, there is a minimum there to last to 2050, £60b is a conservative estimate.

@trevgoes4th @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok Please provide evidence for the real number being much higher than £60bn. At this point unless you can prove otherwise, you are just making numbers up, and therefore your point is worthless.

@SimonM_72 @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok I didnt write £60bn Simon You need new glasses mate The real number would be way higher if we didn't outlaw energy production

@trevgoes4th @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok Trying to debate with you is like trying to have an intelligent conversation with a cat. Where does the £60bn number come from? If you can’t answer that, you don’t know what the estimates actually are, so you have just made it up!

@SimonM_72 @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok for every unit of energy we sell that is produced here, we get tax receipts that is not the case for anything we import how are you a fucking Sales Director if you don't understand the difference between an import and an export

@trevgoes4th @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok I have. Where does the £60bn number come from? Are you going to answer or not?

@SimonM_72 @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok read Steve's post again

@trevgoes4th @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok Please provide a credible source for the £60bn number imbecile!

@SimonM_72 @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok and where do the tax receipts go to moron?

@trevgoes4th @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok When did I deny tax?

@SimonM_72 @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok oh nice, we have a tax denier now too!

@Steve54589280 @trevgoes4th @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok Please provide a source for this number. Gas is a European price as we are connected by pipelines to the European market. We pay the same price as the rest of Europe. Gas is produced by companies that sell to the highest bidder, it isn’t a nationalised industry.

@SimonM_72 @trevgoes4th @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok It’ll raise £60b in tax that could subsidise bills whilst more green energy is built, it’ll reduce gas prices as gas isn’t sold on the international market & the majority of us run on gas not electric heating.

@trevgoes4th @Steve54589280 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok I don’t see any maths, just an unsubstantiated number. @trevgoes4th doesn’t know what maths is!

@Steve54589280 @SimonM_72 @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok Simon is dumbfounded by maths

@trevgoes4th @Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok Drilling for oil or fracking for gas won’t affect our energy prices though, so it is largely irrelevant to the point being made.

@Steven_Swinford @Peston @grok who sets UK energy policy on drilling for oil or fracking for gas?

@PaganOrigin @JohnCleese Very misleading headline, which was replaced. She owns property that she rents out (as do many other people). She just happened to be renting out property to other MPs. She wasn’t renting anything for her own use, she wasn’t claiming rental expenses for her own accommodation.

This is how they get bloody rich. Renting each other their places, bought with tax payer money, and then rented with tax payer money. I’m so sick of this shit, Honestly, I feel unclean. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…

@kylehuckins @EnochBurke The Rev blocked me, as he couldn’t back up his claims.

@kylehuckins @EnochBurke So not “drawing attention" to something…

BREAKING: Enoch Burke’s mother and sister arrested and jailed Martina and Ammi Burke were arrested by Gardaí today at Castlerea Prison after visiting jailed schoolteacher Enoch Burke, their son and brother. Judge Brian Cregan sentenced them to two weeks in prison after they spoke out against his lies and unlawful actions in the case of Enoch Burke. Martina and Ammi Burke had been teaching in Castlebar this morning before travelling to Castlerea for their scheduled visit at 2.15pm. As they left the prison after concluding the visit, Gardaí were waiting outside to arrest them. Lies have been told from the bench since September 2022 when Enoch Burke was first taken from his teaching post at Wilson’s Hospital School and thrown into a jail cell. He refused to call a student by a new name and the “they” pronoun. He was subsequently suspended and has now spent over 600 days in prison. Ireland’s church leaders have maintained a treacherous silence on this issue. Archbishops Eamon Martin and John McDowell speak frequently about battlefields far away - Gaza, Ukraine, the Middle East - but are silent on the battlefields in the schools of Ireland, on their own doorstep. Children in the classroom are being educated in every form of sexual perversion. Martina and Ammi Burke have now been sent to Mountjoy Women’s Prison because they refused to be silent in the face of gross injustice from the bench. Parents, rise up and speak out for your sons and your daughters.

@kylehuckins @EnochBurke So you were unable to back up your claim, and resorted to blocking!

@kylehuckins @EnochBurke So he was arrested (but not charged) for publication or distribution of “written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting” and “stir[s] up racial hatred”. Not for "drawing attention" to something. Please try again…

@bavris1 @Unbranded63 @HousewifePolish @FT Yes we do.

@Unbranded63 @HousewifePolish @FT No we don’t.

Trump is hastening Britain’s return to the EU ft.trib.al/yY2QSl1

@jamie_th @cmonmun @tomhfh Your point is correct. This is down to total lack of industrial strategy, by successive governments. The boards of these companies are incentivised to make them attractive to potential acquirers. Cadbury Schweppes for example, split to make it attractive to Kraft & Coca Cola.

@SimonM_72 @cmonmun @tomhfh My point stands that a large number of UK headquartered manufacturing and engineering companies have been sold overseas over the past few decades and many have been asset stripped/ manufacturing shifted out the country etc

People forget that in the 1990s, Britain was the fourth biggest manufacturing economy in the world. Through the 1990s the number of jobs in manufacturing *increased*. From 1993 to 1998, British manufacturing employment increased from 4.1 million to 4.3 million. Not unrelatedly, across the same timespan, electricity prices dropped by 22%. Our manufacturing crisis today is above all an energy crisis.

@cmonmun @jamie_th @tomhfh ARM was a British company listed on the London Stock Exchange. The shares were owned mainly by institutional investors, similar to other large companies. No single entity had majority or controlling ownership. You are right about GKN though, bought by Melrose.

@jamie_th @tomhfh I’ve pointed this out before, but ARM was never a UK owned business. Also, I’m fairly sure GKN was bought by another UK business