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@PresbyInn The Rosary is way more effective when you sufficiently meditate on the mysteries and you do that best with the Scripture. Try it today and see the result today.
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@needGod_net lol here’s one of many
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Protestant apologetics is so often just Protestants pretending to be Catholics and arguing with themselves. That should already tell you something. They invent a fake Catholic priest, make him say absurd things no informed Catholic would say, and then act like they have refuted the Church. Why? Because when they debate themselves, their dishonesty goes unchecked. That is exactly what is happening here. The whole skit is built on the lie that the Catholic Church teaches that salvation begins by grace but is ultimately maintained by man earning heaven through his own works. That is false. The Church teaches that salvation is by grace, that man cannot merit initial justification, and that even our cooperation with grace is itself enabled by grace. Catholics do not believe we place God in our debt. What Protestants do is hear that obedience, perseverance, worship, and holiness matter, and then immediately scream "works righteousness!" But that proves too much. If obedience having any role means "works salvation," then repentance is works salvation. Perseverance is works salvation. Holiness is works salvation. Yet the Bible explicitly commands all of these. So, what they really reject and hate is the biblical truth that grace calls man to obedience, perseverance, and holiness, not a consequence-free profession of faith and easy believism. Ephesians 2:8-9 does not refute Catholicism. Catholics fully affirm that salvation is the gift of God and not something we can boast in as though we saved ourselves. What these men always ignore is verse 10: we are created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. So yes, we are not saved by works as though grace were unnecessary. But neither are we saved into a dead, fruitless, consequence-free Christianity. And the Sunday Mass point is dishonest, too. The Church does not teach that attending Mass is some human achievement competing with Christ’s finished work. The Eucharist is Christ’s gift, not man’s replacement for grace. So once again, Ryan did not refute Catholicism honestly. He invented a cartoon Catholic, lied about what the Church teaches, and then declared victory over his own caricature. He is a textbook bad-faith actor.
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Still hasn’t been refuted, but I’m inviting Catholics to tell me on my YouTube live stream from 9pm eastern onwards tonight why you think I’m wrong.
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Comical sketch: How a Catholic Priest (poorly) explains Ephesians 2:8-9
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Protestant apologetics is so often just Protestants pretending to be Catholics and arguing with themselves.
That should already tell you something.
They invent a fake Catholic priest, make him say absurd things no informed Catholic would say, and then act like they have refuted the Church. Why? Because when they debate themselves, their dishonesty goes unchecked.
That is exactly what is happening here.
The whole skit is built on the lie that the Catholic Church teaches that salvation begins by grace but is ultimately maintained by man earning heaven through his own works.
That is false.
The Church teaches that salvation is by grace, that man cannot merit initial justification, and that even our cooperation with grace is itself enabled by grace. Catholics do not believe we place God in our debt.
What Protestants do is hear that obedience, perseverance, worship, and holiness matter, and then immediately scream "works righteousness!"
But that proves too much.
If obedience having any role means "works salvation," then repentance is works salvation. Perseverance is works salvation. Holiness is works salvation. Yet the Bible explicitly commands all of these. So, what they really reject and hate is the biblical truth that grace calls man to obedience, perseverance, and holiness, not a consequence-free profession of faith and easy believism.
Ephesians 2:8-9 does not refute Catholicism. Catholics fully affirm that salvation is the gift of God and not something we can boast in as though we saved ourselves. What these men always ignore is verse 10: we are created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
So yes, we are not saved by works as though grace were unnecessary. But neither are we saved into a dead, fruitless, consequence-free Christianity.
And the Sunday Mass point is dishonest, too. The Church does not teach that attending Mass is some human achievement competing with Christ’s finished work. The Eucharist is Christ’s gift, not man’s replacement for grace.
So once again, Ryan did not refute Catholicism honestly. He invented a cartoon Catholic, lied about what the Church teaches, and then declared victory over his own caricature. He is a textbook bad-faith actor.
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Comical sketch: How a Catholic Priest (poorly) explains Ephesians 2:8-9
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@jmwc3 @taco_talks I have already given you an example of an Oral Tradition.
And you don’t deny Scripture to be equal to Oral Tradition, which alone refutes sola scriptura
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Imagine hating God’s word this much that you pretend God literally speaking isn’t the highest authority.
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@jmwc3 @taco_talks How did you know exactly what Scripture is?
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@beCatholicc @taco_talks That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying if we put oral tradition at the same level of scripture, we have to know exactly what the oral tradition is.
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@jmwc3 @taco_talks Do you deny that Apostolic Oral Tradition does equal Scripture in being God’s Word?
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@beCatholicc @taco_talks We already have Hebrews written down, and every Sola Scriptura adherent believes it’s Scripture. Is that the best you can come up with? If oral traditions are equal to the word of God, we need to know exactly what those specific oral traditions are.
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@jmwc3 @taco_talks They taught for example that the book of Hebrews is Scripture. This was never written down in the NT.
The point is that the Apostle’s Oral Traditions are to be held equally as the word of God whether you also find them in Scripture or not. Sola scriptura denies this.
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@beCatholicc @taco_talks What is a specific tradition taught by Paul, or any of the Apostles, by word of mouth that was never written down in the NT?
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@needGod_net The Catholic Church agrees with Ephesians 2 and there are lots of verses even from the same Paul that makes it clear that obeying Christ is part of faith and necessary for salvation. And yes it can’t be your own doing if they’re empowered God.
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St. Paul: “walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh… those who do such things [who gratify the flesh] will not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Gal. 5:16-21) Evangelical: No bro that would mean salvation by my works. I will inherit heaven no matter what I do. Catholic: *walks by the Spirit (cooperation) so as to not gratify the flesh and not lose the inheritance of the Kingdom of God*
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Lots of hate from Catholics, but no real rebuttals to my sketch with a Catholic priest.
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@needGod_net Had to scroll through the 159 comments, not one actual rebuttal to the content in the video, a lot of hate though
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Not relevant. Jesus, while in heaven still identifies Himself in present tense as the offspring of David: “I am the root and the offspring of David” (Rev. 22:16).
He didn’t say “I was”. Shows that His status as the Son of Mary and Joseph (which is what makes him the offspring of David) never stops but is forever.
Mary IS the Mother of God.
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@beCatholicc In heaven, will Mary be the wife of Joseph?
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Theotokos literally means “God bearer”
Mary WAS the God bearer.
Many seem insistent that I MUST say “Mary IS the mother of God”
I’ll gladly say Mary was the God bearer.
Thank you,
Have a good rest of your day.
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Didn’t mean ‘you’ personally but generally. Anyone’s understanding of St. Paul that leads him to ignore his warnings to believers is flawed.
We don’t deny that they’re evidence/fruits, we are simply stating as St. Paul WARNS, that they are necessary and not automatic:
1) you need to walk by the Spirit (cooperation) to produce them otherwise you will gratify the flesh.
“walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh”
2) those who gratify the flesh will not inherit heaven (if they don’t repent obviously)
“those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God”
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How would you come to that conclusion when I stated the exact opposite:
“They are truly saved but drifting, and the warning serves as a means God uses to correct them. True believers respond by repenting.”
Walking by the Spirit for good works is evidence of justification, not the source of it.
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Comical sketch: How a Catholic Priest (poorly) explains Ephesians 2:8-9
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@transf1gurat1on @needGod_net Those he said it to passed down their authority through the laying of hands.
Also St. James: “Confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed.” (James 5:16)
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Imagine your salvation depended on priests being available to hear your confession, but they’re having the week off.
Come Home to Rome@ComeHometoRome
Went to reconciliation today. Turns out they don’t offer it during Holy Week. I’m so sad.
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@transf1gurat1on @needGod_net Jesus: “If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.” (John 20:3)
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@beCatholicc @needGod_net None. It’s the Simon says puzzles and legalist games that make the entire thing a massive joke
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Yes, that’s the point. St. Paul could teach justification by faith while also affirming the necessity of walking by the Spirit for good works and warning against losing heaven due to sins.
If your understanding of St. Paul’s teaching on justification by faith means you have to ignore his warnings then your understanding is flawed.
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A warning does not equal a works-based gospel.
Paul can warn believers without changing how salvation works.
In the same letter, Galatians 2:16:
“A person is not justified by works… but through faith in Jesus Christ.”
If Galatians 5 meant that works determined salvation, then Paul would be contradicting himself within a few paragraphs.
He’s not.
Paul is saying there are two possibilities when someone lives in the flesh:
1) They are truly saved but drifting, and the warning serves as a means God uses to correct them. True believers respond by repenting.
2) They only appear to be, or profess to be, believers. Christian in name only. Culture Christians. Their lifestyle reveals they were never truly walking in the Spirit.
Justification is by faith alone, and true faith produces a changed life.
Not the other way around.
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@transf1gurat1on @needGod_net Which part of seeking forgiveness for your sins is retarded?
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@IndianaBrunner At what point did she stop being the mother of God?
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@redeemed_St @IndianaBrunner “The Father did not become man therefore God did not become man” ~your logic
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@beCatholicc @IndianaBrunner The Father is God.
Mary didn't give birth to the Father.
Mary is NOT the mother of God.
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@rona_wallace @needGod_net Yes he is addressing believers and he explicitly WARNS them that they will not inherit the kingdom of God if they indulge in the flesh.
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@beCatholicc @needGod_net Galatians 5:16–21 is written to people already addressed as believers.
Paul’s point is that if you live according to the flesh, it exposes something is wrong.
He’s describing the evidence of a life, not the basis of justification.
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