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@FantasyKash Yup. I thought the clear trade off this past year was tackle breaking for the speed and explosiveness. Thought his improvement at the catchpoint was way more technical than physical, but I guess that might be part of the trade off as well.

Lemon gained weight this year right? So wonder if it’s gonna be a bit of a trade-off - he’ll either be skinnier or not as dynamic as 2024

@pnwdrew526 @AJ_FFball @stpalme1 @FantasyKash And tbh, as a Lemon fan starting from summer scouting, i'm highkey hoping he can recapture the level of explosiveness he showed in 2024 that I thought lacked this past year. The fact he's shown it before gives me a little hope that part of his game can improve.

@pnwdrew526 @AJ_FFball @stpalme1 @FantasyKash I agree. Part of why I had Nabers WR1 over MHJ. But that was regarding press. Rounded & tipped breaks is a pretty big deal. And yah, route running is fs coachable, but isn't something that i'm super confident in improving based on what i've watched compared to smthing like press.

I asked this a month ago. After listening to one of the most recent DaftonDraft YouTube vids- I want to float this question again. Why is Makai Lemon higher on your draft board than Omar Cooper Jr?

@TMCvision He's got such an incredible combination of athleticism and motor

freshman class so loaded most people never even heard of his kid. he has an Adam Silver handshake waiting on him before it’s all over.

@gamscout Like you can just tell with these things. This is JSN.

@gamscout Part of it is defo a real thing in terms of curvilinear COD, but it's gotten way out of hand out of nowhere. Saw the most normal looking reps getting glazed as if it's some feat using AI software and was like "😐". x.com/i/status/18228…

Is this new “inches off the ground” and “angles of knees and shins” BS gonna be a thing for real? Another stupid non translatable thing we have to hear fans bring up when normal people want to talk about prospects?

@leebwill @NFLDraftBites

@NFLDraftBites Good to not see Tet McMillan. He’s going to be one of the most overrated prospects in years. Slow as can be

@BillyM_91 His strides chew up so much ground so fast. Crazy how easy his speed is.

Plenty of examples to choose from, but plays like this are why many including myself believe Delp will be a far better pro. This is a clear TD missed

@nfldraftscout Word is out on Delp now??

Sounds like Oscar Delp is having an elite pro day workout.

@IronCityFilm Wish I had Cal tape 🥲 He was my favorite corner to watch at the Shrine Bowl.

Cal cornerback Brent Austin is probably the player in this class that I'm most removed from consensus on. He's in the early 300s on the consensus board, and he almost cracked my top-50 - near-instantaneous click-and-close; virtually no window that he can't close from off coverage - disruptive at the catch point - + mirror skills in man coverage; stays glued in the hip pocket - blazing recovery speed

@Jokokingda151 @fckyouglo @ElijahMadu22658 @mallegiance_ I'd say Tyson's extension for the ball was more difficult. But not anything Nabers can't do.

I can confidently say I think Nabers has the pure jumping talent too jump far my question comes in doing it mostly flat footed while not really moving much, I’m wondering if we can get to stand still basis of agreeing that the overall jumping motion of Tyson was a harder motion than the “propelling” as you put it or the step through as I put it that Nabers did? Because I think the catch Nabers made was much harder but the athletic motion to get there I do believe Tyson’s was more difficult?

Imagine seeing a terrible throw like this and using it to knock Tyson

@Jokokingda151 @fckyouglo @ElijahMadu22658 @mallegiance_ You're going to have to show me these examples of these plays from JJettas and Sutton so I can see what exactly you're talking about. Because everything you're describing, Nabers can and has done lol. I don't remember seeing catches similar to those of Nabers I showed.

He’s absolutely a freakier athlete but the thing all those other guys have in common is the play strength for WRs they all play WAY stronger than that and for Jettas there’s genuinely a specific catch I can think of where he beats Gilmore on a zig but has to jump back into the throw while being turned the other way cause cousins is mid so I have seen it happen as a Vikings fan lol, and Sutton definitely has the strength and athletic tools to make some freaky plays forget his trash hands and mid route running I’m talking about the jump specifically for those examples because I’ve seen them make stand still full body jumps to get back to the ball with no prior momentum I’ve seen Sutton have to jump through dbs to get back to under thrown nix balls Nabers doesn’t do that I don’t know what to tell you, I understand that there’s a chance he could I suppose you’ve at least convinced me of that but I don’t think the plays you showed are what convinced me I do think the plays you showed were poor examples to compare

@GOATED_WF My predictive top 10 for rn

1000% accurate

@themicknartin I would wince once in a while whenever a ball comes his way. I hate it.

KC.....please man. I am going to die on your hill, but I'm begging you to clean up your catch technique.

@Jokokingda151 @fckyouglo @ElijahMadu22658 @mallegiance_ I don't think there's a play that can 1 to 1 replicate it. Which makes it so frustrating when u can't see the deductive reasoning behind Nabers, but somehow say JJettas & Sutton could've? I think Nabers has the closest examples and is the freakiest athlete of all of those names.

Jettas could’ve. So could have Cortland Sutton, or Pickens, hell maybe even a younger Mike Evan’s but all of those WRs are way different from Nabers archetype and they all posses a genuine physical strength that goes past just the pushing away from contact and it’s not even the catch I’m genuinely just talking about the jump no I don’t think Nabers can WITH NO PRIOR MOVEMENT immediately start to turn his hips JUMP while facing the other direction fully turn and extend and make a catch mid air no I don’t think that I’ve seen other players do similar enough things but genuinely the shit you are showing me ISNT CLOSE TO WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT your so zoned in on the contact you don’t understand it’s the jump that I find difficult it’s the contorting and then jumping wile having just cut back that’s the hard part maybe there’s a play that shows Nabers does but he hasn’t sure he has the tools to where maybe he could, I’ll at least say that maybe Nabers could catch it but I doubt it and at the very least I haven’t seen anything that really relates itself as well for this jump because it’s just a rare play to see someone fully stopped basically be able to get himself multiple feet further and then turn himself in air for the ball it’s just not something I see a lot but whatever I’m honestly over debating this we just disagree down to what we consider jumps and actual movement definitions so who cares

@Jokokingda151 @fckyouglo @ElijahMadu22658 @mallegiance_ You honestly could've used so many other better examples, but Nabers might be one of the worst ones lmao. But the way you think, no one can do what Tyson did since they haven't done the *exact* same catch. I wish I could live in that much of a fantasy land to think that way.

@Jokokingda151 @fckyouglo @ElijahMadu22658 @mallegiance_ Ur arguing a freak athlete with a 42in vert & a 92nd percentile broad w/ elite body control can't jump without having momentum, when he's done everything up to that point except for use his post foot. & if u think the Giants catch isn't similar at all, that's willful ignorance.=

@Jokokingda151 @fckyouglo @ElijahMadu22658 @mallegiance_ You're trolling me atp. He's literally getting assaulted. And Tyson just got hit with a dead arm lol.

Pulling and pulling back man you can tell a lot from 16 pixels you know where his eyes were too? Nabers runs fully through this? Pulling back? Yeah nowhere in this is he doing anything close to pulling Nabers back he’s just in his way and like you claimed for my Tyson one “dead arming” around him this isn’t difficult it’s the getting to that spot that was difficult

@Jokokingda151 @fckyouglo @ElijahMadu22658 @mallegiance_ He propelled himself off that foot he got pulled back that way and caught himself with that foot. So he couldn't have used momentum lol. And if you don't think a twitched up freak athlete with a 99th percentile vert and 92nd percentile broad can't jump like that, idk what to say.

To make the catch that Tyson made he would’ve had to have jumped from a much more stand still position and he didn’t even do that In a situation where it would’ve been easier to do (not better for the circumstances of the play but the jump itself would’ve been easier) Nabers in that play doesn’t move me and make me think he can do what Tyson did, it’s a great play sure but I don’t see how it correlates to what Tyson did sure they’re “moving forward” and fighting through contact but that’s a loose connection at best these are totally different and don’t really have that many similarities in the things required to make the catch I’d say the Nabers catch required arm strength route running ankle flexion and ability to survive the catch through contact Tyson only did one of those things, his ankle flexion wasn’t the best which is why I like Nabers he actually had to fully leap whereas Nabers can just take the step and somewhat use his momentum thats already gained to move forward, Nabers was already moving forward during your claimed leap Tyson wasn’t the body strength needed to jump and twist without already having momentum is something Nabers hasn’t shown and it’s not something you’ve showsed me

@Jokokingda151 @fckyouglo @ElijahMadu22658 @mallegiance_ Never said he jumped. We already established he propelled himself lol. The knee bend, re-extension and pushoff.

You can’t actually sit there and say he’s jumping here like for a second remove your own opinion and watch the clip, you can’t call that a jump you just can’t sure he’s “propelling himself” nice way for you to avoid saying STEPPED btw he STEPPED forward and was FALLING while doing it