longtwerp
34 posts
These guys are probably fun at parties...
NikTek@NikTek
Male walking animations have been slightly changed in Fable's latest gameplay demo compared to Developer Direct footage back in January. Here's a direct comparison Before VS After
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@montesquieu_cl @eneri74362847 @cmuratori The comment you quoted referred to copies.
A work can also qualify as plagiarism if it's similar enough to another, yes. Both humans and AI are capable of producing such works. So if it wouldn't qualify when produced by a human, I don't know why it would when produced by an AI.
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@longtwerp @eneri74362847 @cmuratori Plagiarism is not limited to just copying the original, being 'too close' to the original is plagiarism too.
It's an interesting topic, with a pilosophical angle, hence my request for your comment.
It was a good catch.
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For people using AI in commercial game development: I'd be interested in hearing the best arguments as to why you think people should pay for the resulting game instead of pirating it.
Concisely, if you pirated the inputs, why shouldn't they pirate the output?
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@cmuratori Except that's not the only criteria. To qualify as copyright infringement it also has to exceed some threshold of similarity to another work. So if an AI-generated work doesn't meet that threshold, it wouldn't qualify as copyright infringement regardless of it's economic impact.
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Same as the normal argument for fair use: to determine whether it's fair use, you typically ask what the economic impact was on the author. In the case of humans learning, it has traditionally been either minimal or non-existent. In the case of AI, at least AI proponents argue it will quite literally put many of the artists out of work (this is currently one of the main value propositions made by AI companies currently - that it will make things for you, so you don't have to pay humans to do it, or as many humans, etc.)
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@montesquieu_cl @eneri74362847 @cmuratori I literally referred to human made copies as copyright infringement.
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@longtwerp @eneri74362847 @cmuratori Care to comment?
I think this is a very good catch, if not an outright checkmate.
Also:
>We don't then say everything that person produces is copyright infringement
Nintendo does exactly that though.
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shmoody@shmoody_y
@longtwerp @eneri74362847 @cmuratori we have the word plagiarism for human memory produced copies
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@eneri74362847 @cmuratori A human is capable of producing copies that qualify as copyright infringement too. We don't then say everything that person produces is copyright infringement. So why would we for gen AIs?
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@longtwerp @cmuratori It does not "hinge". LLMs and other GenAIs are proven to reproduce copies of trained data, which is also how they are designed in the first place: AI is a huge lossy archive of all the trained data.
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@eneri74362847 @cmuratori So the argument hinges on whether or not a "copy" of the data is made in the process of training the model? Or are you saying the model itself is the copy?
If you mean the latter, I'm not sure why that qualifies as a copy but a human memory of the data doesn't.
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@longtwerp @cmuratori Your assumption of "data freely available" is just wrong, exactly because of copyright: even if it is available to watch, read or listen, does not mean you are free to copy and/or resell it. Which is exactly what AI does: copies and resells. 1/2
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@eneri74362847 @cmuratori To the extent that they were actually trained on pirated data, I'd agree. But if you're using "pirated" to refer to data that humans can already freely access legally, I don't agree.
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@longtwerp @cmuratori no, we already have facts: all those machines were fed scraped unpayed images, books, music and everything else. literally pirated the whole internet, and it's a fact.
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@cmuratori Well I'd like to hear the argument *for* it being piracy first.
But the main question I imagine I'd have is, what is the difference between a human amalgamating reference into something new vs an AI doing the same, that qualifies the latter as piracy but the former not?
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you’d cheer it on just the same big dawg
chris evans@notcapnamerica
Does Hasan Piker think Kamala Harris would’ve done the same? Just wondering
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@KyleKulinski I love how "fat" is supposedly so awful that it warrants being listed along with "rapist, pedophile, war criminal con man", and in fact before all of them.
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The fat rapist pedophile war criminal con man crashes out every time Ro Khanna goes on Fox lmao
Clash Report@clashreport
Trump posts about Ro Khanna.
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gina immediately smiling and laughing.
she lost that weight and collected a paycheck
weedie@GregGre65907883
@cdxliv444 That shit was staged, bullshit
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Russia just lost more soldiers than the British or French did during World War 2. Thankfully, the invasion is now unwinnable.
What a waste of life, talent, intelligence, creativity, energy and resources. Putin weakened his position & stained his legacy.
Rob Lee@RALee85
"For the first time this year, Mediazona and Meduza have updated the overall estimate of the actual number of Russia’s losses in its war against Ukraine. It is based on the Probate Registry and reflects the number of male Russian citizens aged 18 to 59 who died since the start of the full-scale invasion to the end of 2025: 352,000." @mediazzzona @meduza_en en.zona.media/article/2026/0…
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@jonford01 @discordspies And ironically, it would be more unethical for him to not give her the option of paying with sex and mandate she only pays with money.
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@jonford01 @discordspies The only difference would be if the landlord was like "pay me this instant (with money or sex) or I'll evict you".
But if he gives her the normal amount of time to find the money (or have sex with him), then she's in the exact position an escort is it.
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I know this is the Nazi site but man so many people just don’t know what rape is
LIZZY💥@LizzyStarrrdust
Do you have an objection to this scenario? A 30 year old woman finds herself broke. Her landlord proposes she have sex with him in exchange for rent. She wouldn't have had sex with him otherwise but he's ok, she's got no other options & isn't repulsed by him . She agrees.
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@jonford01 @discordspies Except he's not saying he'll evict her if she doesn't have sex with him, he's saying he'll evict her if she doesn't pay rent (either with money or sex).
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@longtwerp @discordspies "If you don't have sex with me, I will evict you"
Compared to:
"If you don't have sex with me, I won't pay you"
They are clearly quite different propositions with different coercive effects.
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@discordspies Right but the gun to the woman's head in this scenario is the same gun to every escort's head (and anyone who pays rent). Assuming he's not refusing money as payment and just offering sex as an alternative, she could say no to him and just become an escort.
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@longtwerp Think of it like this - a guy holds a gun to your head and asks you to carry a box to his car. The box is not particularly heavy, nor does it appear to contain anything untoward.
You'd probably come out of that thinking "that could have been worse" but it was still under duress.
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@discordspies So if he's not a "problem", then there's no difference?
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@longtwerp There's definitely a lot of potential coercion involved in sex work but from what I understand it's more like a taxi driver where if a client is a problem, you *can* tell them to get the fuck out of your car
In the quoted scenario, there's no way to turn this individual man down
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