John Smith
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The idea that a non-monastic Roman citizen just opted to never have sex with his pretty wife for 40 years, and all the people who are explicitly called Jesus' brothers were his distant cousins, is a fascinating example of dogma - a thing believed because one is supposed to believe it.
jardiniernormie@jardiniernormie
Protestant Joseph be like: "AAAAARGH I MUST HAVE SEX SO WHAT IF MY WIFE GAVE BIRTH TO GOD HIMSELF AND GOD IS LIVING IN MY HOUSE I JUST NEED THE SEX SOOOO BAD"
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I still can't believe Protestantism exists.
(John 6:)
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@Mawar38 @wil_da_beast630 1) No, but prots produce so few scholars of note that you’d think they would listen to the ones they do have. 🤷🏼♂️
2) I’ve seen few people as confidently ignorant as yourself:
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@onlyry7654 @wil_da_beast630 They have no more authority than you or I to interpret and understand the word of God
There is also no such thing as anti catholic propaganda
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The Bible specifically and repeatedly refers to 4-5 "brothers" of Jesus, using that term.
Apologist responses here have always struck me, personally, as variants on "wine means grape juice."
Jennifer Greenberg 🕊️@JennMGreenberg
I never understood the purpose of this doctrine. Obviously Mary was a virgin when she had Jesus, but why must she remain perpetually so? Especially when the Bible talks about Jesus’s brothers. She was married to Joseph and sex within marriage is good, not sinful.
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@Mawar38 @wil_da_beast630 🧐this is not a circular argument, it’s an appeal to authority from reformist founders.
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@onlyry7654 @wil_da_beast630 That is a circular argument
Luther was wrong if he thought Mary did not consummate the marriage with her husband Joesph and had more children that the scripture clearly speaks of
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@onlyry7654 @wil_da_beast630 You are using catholic dogma to argue catholic dogma is truth
Circular argument
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I agree with the Bible that she, a married woman , consummated her marriage and obeyed the Lord as her and Joseph were fruitful and multiplied.
Michael Knowles@michaeljknowles
When it comes to the perpetual virginity of Mary, do you agree with the Catholic view or with the view of Protestant reformers Martin Luther, Ulrich Zwingli, and John Wesley?
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@Firerisk6 @farmingandJesus Let me educate you on this topic, so that in the future you maybe you will research on your own.
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Chair at the Democratic Socialist conference in Canada rebukes a nonbinary keffiyeh wearing speaker for misgendering her because she also identifies as nonbinary
“Don’t call me madam chair. I’m a nonbinary person. My pronouns are they/them.”
Clown show
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@FrMatthewLC Children should be at church. Parents should discipline their children so they don’t create excessive distractions. The problem we have is that parents aren’t able to control their kids.
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Do you think this is a good policy or not?
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There is zero biblical support of Mary being an eternal virgin. The biblical evidence is the exact opposite.
Michael Knowles@michaeljknowles
When it comes to the perpetual virginity of Mary, do you agree with the Catholic view or with the view of Protestant reformers Martin Luther, Ulrich Zwingli, and John Wesley?
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@Peacemaker811 @not_voltaire @wil_da_beast630 Only Catholics? That is beyond ignorant. The Orthodox and early reformers agreed. Even Calvin says you are excessively ignorant.
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@not_voltaire @wil_da_beast630 Nope. We’ve consistently believed that Jesus has brothers and sisters. Only Catholics changed their beliefs about this based on a fake apocryphal book.
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@Mawar38 @wil_da_beast630 Funny enough, you don’t even recognize that your view point is a modern interpretation that was born out of anti-Catholic propaganda. Even Calvin says you are excessively ignorant.
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@wil_da_beast630 Propaganda works
Especially when one are born into it and do not know any difference
One is fed propaganda by the parents whom they trust
Especially this catholic propaganda
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@LindaB84Curtiss @JennMGreenberg @TimMcGovern18 Have you never prayed for someone else before? If so, that is the definition of intercessory prayer.
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@JennMGreenberg @TimMcGovern18 I will add, though if Catholics use their belief in Mary's perpetual virginity to justify giving her status as an intercessor, that is NOT Biblical. Mary is not who we should pray to, only God and Christ is our intercessor to the Father.
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I never understood the purpose of this doctrine. Obviously Mary was a virgin when she had Jesus, but why must she remain perpetually so? Especially when the Bible talks about Jesus’s brothers. She was married to Joseph and sex within marriage is good, not sinful.
Michael Knowles@michaeljknowles
When it comes to the perpetual virginity of Mary, do you agree with the Catholic view or with the view of Protestant reformers Martin Luther, Ulrich Zwingli, and John Wesley?
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@Caripka @JennMGreenberg lol it’s funny to see prots go from sola scriptura to this
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@JennMGreenberg It’s silly. I don’t believe she was a virgin when she had Jesus either. The story of an unwed woman giving birth to the savior was whitewashed by the judgey men who wrote about it later.
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@RandalRauser No, they can be eunuchs but they undoubtedly cannot be women.
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