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@originalnameM
lefty I no longer follow back because I rarely use this website
New England 😎 เข้าร่วม Aralık 2019
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the Argentinian claim to Falklands/Malvinas is just “theyre right there though”
and the map game player in me is forced to agree, that is an unimpeachable claim.
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@Cabrah2 @fakecel_0 @AniBanani188205 @grandaljotape I believe they were spanish but it wouldn't particularly matter if they were argentinian then
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@originalnameM @fakecel_0 @AniBanani188205 @grandaljotape "Why", well, so that they can control the land they live at?
And theyre british, yes, thats why it is a colony in case you didnt yet understand what that means.
And what do you mean "colonize them back"? You agree the malvinas were argentinian then?
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Palestina apoya la posición Argentina en Malvinas. No usen a los palestinos para justificar estupideces.
Alessandro 🇧🇷🇺🇦🇵🇸@aledornell
It’s actually offensive and takes away from people actually oppressed by European imperialism to believe that as an Argentinian your situation is in any way comparable to what Palestinians go through
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@Cabrah2 @fakecel_0 @AniBanani188205 @grandaljotape why would they be independent? the people there are british. you don't even want them to be independent, you just want argentina to colonize them back.
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@originalnameM @fakecel_0 @AniBanani188205 @grandaljotape "But its been a good long while" and what? Are the falklands independent now?
Because from my knowledge, how much time a colony has existed doesnt change their status of colony.
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@Cabrah2 @fakecel_0 @AniBanani188205 @grandaljotape the initial colonization was for economic benefit, but it's been a good long while, that's why I said it was projection to say "fueron prometidas hace 200 años"
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@originalnameM @fakecel_0 @AniBanani188205 @grandaljotape Not really, if what we're discussing is who was imperialistic here. You think the english travelled 13000km for no reason at all?
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@originalnameM @fakecel_0 @AniBanani188205 @grandaljotape Says the guy whose country fucking travelled anywhere to put colonies and steal resources. You all really believe englishmen simply "happened to appear" in another continent, by pure chance?
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@grandaljotape This is more like, "We want our neighbours' house. They all agree we can't have it, but we think we should take it anyway."
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@ElAvatarTang @avanticult it's been 200 years, by this standard large swaths of most countries, including yours, have no right to self determination. maybe you should admit that this a petty nationalist grievance where you feel you're owed something based on geography.
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@avanticult British subjects brought to replace the previous Argentine population after a military invasion. They aren't entitled to self determination.
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I have been made aware of chronically online ‘anti-imperialist’ (when in actuality they’re apologetic for military juntas, and fascist) Argentines trying to claim the falklands yet again. I wish to remind them that, the Falklands are British and they always shall be. Thank you!
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@AniBanani188205 @grandaljotape No entendes que las islas les fueron prometidas por su realeza hace 200 años?
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The anti imperialists are citing the Treaty of Tordesillas
E@alltidfl19
This is the stupidest argument they have. Try seizing south Africa again because it wasn't a nation before Britain and see how it goes. The islands were Spanish because they belonged to land claim by Spain and in theur continental shelf. They didn't have a right in 1765!
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@Skeleman71 Act 1: I kick the original settlers.
Act 2: i put sum biritsh fkers on an island down in south america
Act 3: I ask them if they want to continue being biritsh.
*Somehow thinks this is a gotcha against legit claims from Argentina*
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It’s actually very simple
-The Islands were uninhabited prior to European settlement
-They never once belonged to Argentina
-Most importantly, they voted 99.8% yes in a referendum to remain British
Meanwhile the Argentine claim is “gimme gimme gimme I want it”
armas sexo y aprietes@ciudadedeus
soy un zurdo antimperialista pero te voy a pasar a explicar porque Gran Bretaña tiene un derecho soberano y territorial legitimo sobre un dominio colonial centenario a mas de 13.000km de distancia
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@whosdiscauseidk @estacancelame @MrGeorgSplatoon @its_hipolita argentina is a settler-colonial nation, britain is a former colonial empire. britain is like spain & argentina is like america, but they're not like each other in this regard.
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@originalnameM @estacancelame @MrGeorgSplatoon @its_hipolita it still is a colonial state like the british, its history is routed colonialism and even practiced some itself, that’s not to say it was a colonial empire
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"i'm a lefty anti-imperialist but I love Margaret Thatcher, implanted colonial populations and the British Empire"
Jack D 🏳️🌈@JackDunc1
I’m a lefty anti-imperialist, but Argentina is wrong on the Falklands The islands have never had an Argentinian population. Falklanders predate Argentina, and 99% voted to stay British This isn’t a colonial issue. It’s used by ARG's far right to distract from domestic problems.
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@originalnameM @Elma17_10 @aledornell if 193 years were to pass, would you consider israel a legitimate state?
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Do they teach Argentines in school that every island territory automatically belongs to the geographically closest nation
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armas sexo y aprietes@ciudadedeus
soy un zurdo antimperialista pero te voy a pasar a explicar porque Gran Bretaña tiene un derecho soberano y territorial legitimo sobre un dominio colonial centenario a mas de 13.000km de distancia
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@whosdiscauseidk @estacancelame @MrGeorgSplatoon @its_hipolita yeah that first comment in english conflates those two things by comparing argentina to the UK, & then the comment in spanish says it's not a "colonial state" because it's not the latter thing
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@originalnameM @estacancelame @MrGeorgSplatoon @its_hipolita i think this is just a translation problem you’re having, they’re saying it’s a “european colonial state” as in a state that was established via european colonialism, that’s different from being a coloniser/colonial empire
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@Elma17_10 @aledornell if China had invaded the U.S. virgin islands 193 years ago I would not be mad
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@aledornell 1813: The UK recongizes the islands belong to Argentina
1833: The UK invades the islands a argentine population and their government, houses and buildings.
Imagine tomorrow China invades the U.S. Virgin Islands and they claim therr were never americans i there how mad you'll be
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You're plainly wrong.
The islands' population were brought in the 1840's to replace the previous Argentine one. Such a population isn't entitled to external self determination.
It is indeed a colonial issue, as recognised by UNGA resolution 2065 and others.
Jack D 🏳️🌈@JackDunc1
I’m a lefty anti-imperialist, but Argentina is wrong on the Falklands The islands have never had an Argentinian population. Falklanders predate Argentina, and 99% voted to stay British This isn’t a colonial issue. It’s used by ARG's far right to distract from domestic problems.
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@its_hipolita "I hate Margaret Thatcher but a bigger landmass should always claim the nearby islands without care about the opinion of the local population"
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@mapadevelador @SlimyFellow @jorgemaro458 @its_hipolita that's not a gotcha, argentina's reputation for whiteness is not why it's a settler state
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@SlimyFellow @jorgemaro458 @its_hipolita It's not. You would have to say the same about every other Latin American country.
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