Comparative Phenology

@Slavkiller @SlavicNetworks There are actually Slavic place names on those 3 islands, though I wouldn't be able to tell when or how they arrived. They might've simply been migrants to Denmark without ever having any independence of their own

@SlavicNetworks Nice try, but this is neither archeologically nor especially not genetically backed-up evidently proven. The most further north expansion of the Ancient Slaves was the southeastern corner of the Cimbrian Peninsula called Ostholstein, but Slaves were never west of Kieler fjords.

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@theudorekaz Though the only other possible definition, who was there first, would probably disqualify even WHGs half Gravettian side given where that Gravettian ancestry actually comes from

@theudorekaz Maybe if the definition of indigenous is "whoever was there last prior to the latest wave of migration", which seems like a pretty useless qualifier in regards to claims to a piece of land

(In the second one, CNE is broadly Germanic and WBI is basically Insular Celt) #Sec6" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">nature.com/articles/s4158…

@Supahdenning @nrken19 @Maptysk Or maybe the language gets absorbed by Mierzanowice at some point, if the study is correct in its findings

@Supahdenning @nrken19 @Maptysk Perhaps it's possible they get absorbed by Unetice but keep their language, and then pass into Trzciniec or something

Cultural lexical borrowings in Proto-Slavic from a local variety of the West European Substrate academia.edu/164796800/Cult…

@Supahdenning @nrken19 The Greek substrate is weird because I don't think any vasconic-related culture ever got there. Might make the case that it's not related to Vasconic

@Supahdenning @nrken19 Yes it's written rather confusingly, but they claim it's an EEF family that also contributed to Greek, Germanic and Italo-Celtic in an older introgression, while the Slavic one is more recent

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite But I hadn't actually thought about why it occurs before

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite In selection that's due to the fact that selection is unequal, in drift I would guess it's because drift is randomized so doesn't always effect every marker and those that it does it doesn't equally

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite It's already an issue that if you bring up craniometry or dental studies on kiffians people will look at you weirdly

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite Also, doesn't seem like there would be much value in that type of information, or anyone really interested in it

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite Divergence has a different signature than mixing because mixing blends all markers equally while divergence keeps some exactly the same while distorting others completely. Matrix can pick that up pretty well

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite Like the only thing required for that is that it's uncontaminated. Because you can easily assess if divergence occurred after mixture or in one of the components by seeing where affinities lie in each demorph and which markers they're in

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite I shouldn't have made that post without comment I assumed I'd get 2 likes as usual, I think I'll delete it since it only really means anything to myself and 2 other people on here

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite No

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite Actually, most phenotypic divergence happens in bursts. Types can remain essentially the exact same for 10ky but can also change drastically in just 2-5. It depends on how strong the bottleneck is that the population is experiencing

@thmque @GildedCoprolite especially when the admix event is several millennia old like it is in Tibetans

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite (continued)...or similar traits that are highly variable

@Hilux_Catalyzer @GildedCoprolite No, that's not why it was assumed to be Denisovan. But also if you actually know Denisovan skulls you can tell immediately that it doesn't look like one. Craniometry relies on poor, non-conservative traits so routinely claims skulls are archaic mixed when they're just robust