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@DanielLRAnsell Which course though? We need a working class socialist party, but it increasingly feels like we might have to launch something entirely separate in Scotland, not just the envisioned “sister” party

@BennClips it's difficult but it's the struggle we have. I hope you stay the course.

The more I think about this, the more incandescent with rage I become. There will effectively be no working class socialist option on the ballot for our national elections (bar fringe parties like TUSC) because of sectarians in London. I have no idea what to do next.

@uneppen68 @KerriganHayes_ No one said anything anything about giving up.

@BennClips @KerriganHayes_ Because the alternatives are giving up or joining the Greens and I'm doing neither. My Nan would come back and haunt me if I did.

@ScottishBevan @charlielfc_17 “Very left wing”. 😂😂😂 Aye he’s nationalising the commanding heights and taxing wealth at alarming levels comrade

@BennClips @charlielfc_17 Starmer is actually very left wing lol. What this government is proving is that the soft-left is insufficient to deal with an economy in crisis.

This is such an ignorant take btw. Why would those of us desperate for a socialist challenge to the Scottish Government vote for the Scottish Government…?

@HRHawkinsNE @onalifeglug Not perfect? Please convey to your fellow CEC members the deep, deep hurt and anger felt by Scottish members. People are leaving daily in fury and despair at how we’ve been treated. Today’s email the last straw for many.

@onalifeglug which was incredibly painful and frustrating for me but i know how important it is for us to keep moving forward, even if it’s not perfect right now.

Disgusted by elements in the Your Party leadership. Refusing basic accessibility requests, shouting over and muting people, giving wildly disproportionate time to speak based on factional alignment, just toxic anti-democratic behaviour that has no place in a socialist party

@ScottishBevan @charlielfc_17 Not a single person involved in the modern Labour Party leadership or bureaucracy is committed to clause 4. Don’t delude yourself.

@BennClips @charlielfc_17 This isn't connected to your point though. Ofc the manifesto was "social democratic" not radically socialist. Manifestos are what the socialists of yore called a minimum programme, the maximum programme is defined more by our clause four admittedly very abstract but socialist

@charlielfc_17 @ScottishBevan Reductive ultra-left position that I simply don’t agree with

@BennClips @ScottishBevan YP (if it ever got up off the ground) would end up just as masticated into the very same soc dem stewards of capitalism you claim to oppose. Don’t be fooled

@ScottishBevan @charlielfc_17 You are an imperialist party committed to, at best, ameliorating capitalism for some British workers, but not if it interferes too much with private profit. There’s fuck all democratic or socialist about the Labour Party.

@BennClips @charlielfc_17 Manifestos are by definition the minimum programme when it comes to democracies, of what we can expect to do within four-five years.

@SocialistNIRE Middle class? 😂😂😂😂

One of the MiddleClassRoots Left Clique want me done for libel for raising Nialls history of bullying and infighting. First it was Max with a bullying history and now also Niall. Is MiddleClassRoots Left just a bully boys club? You can't erase history Jacky lad.

@ewangibbs I fucking hate that podcast

@DarrensBestShot @NiallChristie1 Luckily, the vast majority of Scots disagree with you. We are a nation.

@BennClips @NiallChristie1 it's been a gigantic mistake. We should have devolved to regions, not Edinburgh.

An update from me as Your Party Scotland Scotland rep following Sunday's CEC meeting. 👇 docs.google.com/document/d/1y7…

@DarrensBestShot @NiallChristie1 Did you just sleep through the whole devolution thing, Darren?

@BennClips @NiallChristie1 you live in the UK, though. If you want to go smaller, I'm still not sure why you would think Shetland is in the same area as Dumfries, but Carlisle isn't.

@RonaldMcCallum1 @Deborah_PCP Well, I agree with the second part

@BennClips @Deborah_PCP They used you to build the party in Scotland, then told you to bolt. I've seen plenty usings in ma time. You'll have to start from scratch.

I mean, what can you say at this point? - Scottish conference decisions effectively overruled - We will not run candidates because of HQ intransigence - Decisions made for Scotland made in London by a handful of people Open contempt for Scottish members.

@RonaldMcCallum1 @Deborah_PCP Ignored rather than used tbh

@BennClips @Deborah_PCP Sort of like being used. Told ya.

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@charlielfc_17 @ScottishBevan Current form? It’s arguably not been a democratic socialist party for about a century—even Corbyn’s programme was a social democratic one at best

@ScottishBevan @BennClips You can certainly make the case for “stay and fight” but I think part of the fight is recognising we are currently not a democratic socialist party in our current form

@RosaLuxembae I think they kind of see it as a win-win — if it passes, they say “see we listened and held a vote, but time ran out”. It’s v cynical.

It's difficult to organise against these antidemocratic votes where only the leadership can put forward their argument but I hope Scottish comrades vote Option A to give the bureaucracy a bloody nose.

@WhisBestGoalie @NiallChristie1 @Jen4TruroAndFal @LauraSmithCrewe @LouRegan1 @cllrbegum I hear a lot of options are being discussed. People are so miserable and despondent by it all. We were so enthusiastic about the party and had largely stayed away from all the factional stuff down south.

@BennClips @NiallChristie1 @Jen4TruroAndFal @LauraSmithCrewe @LouRegan1 @cllrbegum Wait so they put the question in the name of ‘Your Party Scotland’ without consulting Scotland’s CEC rep or ISEC while basically insulting YPS’ structures? If that’s the case, I’d have to think the relationship is permanently broken. Surely a hard split is all but inevitable now

In another twist, the leadership has just gone over the heads of the ISEC and @NiallChristie1, the representative *we* elected, and asked us a question that we already democratically decided in February. What the fuck are the officers group playing at?