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@Eisenhagel Lincoln certainly bent the constitution in order to win the war. But at the time being referenced he wasn’t even in office yet.

@Ohboycjs And a direct threat to the Constitutional rights of states within the Union, correct - the bigger issue, all in all.

Do you know how many people died to keep that flag out of that building.

@realindridcold @izamamaa The southern ports that were bringing in what, 10-15% of total federal revenue?Completely delusional. The south succeeded because they viewed Lincoln’s election as a direct threat to the institution of slavery.

@izamamaa Quite the contrary. It's the universal symbol for rebellion, and the South just wanted to be left alone. Lincoln responded by raising an army of mostly mercenaries, and murdered almost 1 million Americans over secession so he could collect tariffs on Southern ports.

@Recondo886 @izamamaa When exactly could he have taken DC? And don’t say after either Bull Run because that’s a hilariously bad argument to try and make.

@izamamaa you failed US history class. the Confederacy never attempted to enter Washington DC mush less the Capital. Robert E Lee could have taken DC, twice. he probably should have.

@ludi_patudi @tbonier You really aren’t seeing the forest for the trees here are you?

@Ohboycjs @tbonier the court agreed only the legislature and commission can draw it. the legislature then voted to reject the bipartisan map and instead map their own drawing for congressional districts. banning it really worked there huh

Funny, I don't recall GOPs protesting the new map in Texas, where one fun feature is that it splits the Houston metro area up between 11 different congressional districts.

@ludi_patudi @tbonier Hmm? As far as states go New York is quite fair. What a horrible example to try and prove a point

@Ohboycjs @tbonier tell me, did banning it stop democrats in new york gerrymandering??

@FieryPhoenix74 @tbonier You should tell the GOP congressional members that. They could ban it but they won’t, because they know they disproportionately benefit from it.

@tbonier Same could be said about democrats when CA did it. Anyone who thinks it’s ok to gerrymander a state for power is mentally challenged. I don’t care what side of the aisle you are on, you should be against gerrymandering. If your ok with it then don’t claim to be for fair elections

@JackBeQuick84 @tbonier So let’s ban gerrymandering then, right?

@tbonier Funny I don’t remember democrats complaining when they did it in California, New York, Washington state, Nevada. So how about you go shut the fuck up

@keith_lundin69 @tbonier Both! That’s what they’re pointing out, that republicans are hypocrites who won’t ban gerrymandering because they benefit from it.

@tbonier So what’s your point? Should we care about both or care about neither?

@Djwestphal21 @tbonier Why don’t we ban gerrymandering nationwide?

@tbonier We have a state constitution with an addendum for no gerrymandering. Texas doesn’t, that’s not my fault, genius!!! We have nothing to do with what happened in Texas.

@ludi_patudi @tbonier Then we should ban it, right?

@tbonier they were just following illinois lead where one fun feature is that it splits the chicago metro area up between 10 to 11 different congressional districts

@SimiValleyGuru @DerekPederson3 Don’t be so dense bud, you’re smarter than that I’m sure.

@DerekPederson3 Read the 10th Amendment

I know a lot of Republicans are probably sad about their democracy being taken from them, but they should consider that we never had a democracy. It’s actually a Republic.

@LovesSardine @DerekPederson3 Jesus Christ somebody hasn’t paid attention to any police before like…. 2 weeks ago? Because that’s the only explanation for thinking that.

@DerekPederson3 Kind of blaming the victim here if you genuinely think gerrymandering is wrong. It benefits reps basically nowhere they massively lose out

@SmelleyScott @HQNewsNow So why won’t republicans sign on and ban nationwide gerrymandering? You really are a useful idiot for them eh?

@HQNewsNow You are an idiot! Democrats are liars and hypocrites! Pick and choose, huh?

Virginia voter: Trump has explicitly stated to state legislators, 'find me more seats.' As Democrats, we can't come to a boxing match where the other person brings a knife. That's the position we've been forced into

@MikeConsti31151 @davidisnotright @sam_d_1995 Absolute delusion.

@davidisnotright @sam_d_1995 Yup, but is a pretty good example of reality. It is the Democrats that have been gerrymandering for years.

just a friendly reminder that republicans have a trifecta and could pass a federal ban on gerrymandering *tomorrow* if they wanted to. but they don’t want to. they want to rig the system. and then they turn around and throw a temper tantrum when Dems fight back

@stones_throwin @covie_93 Sure bud, sure.

@covie_93 I guess this is a scoop in the Caribbean. In America it's absolute bullshit

Shoutout to The Atlantic reporters for publishing these massive scoops instead of waiting years to put them in a book.

@MSMSucks187 @MarcoFoster_ @grahamformaine Democrats very much are talking about the billions in fraud being done in direct benefit of the current administration and their billionaire donors

@MarcoFoster_ @grahamformaine Ok I find it hilarious. Politicians always love talking about billionaires, but never about the billions, or even trillions in fraud going on at the politician level.

Graham Platner: “In 1990 there were fewer than 80 billionaires in the US. Today there are over 900. Do you see a state of Maine that is 10x wealthier than 1990? Have our wages gone up 10x? Do we have 10x the schools? 10x the hospitals? No, we have less. The money went somewhere and it wasn’t down here. it was stolen from us in a rigged system”

@MattTyrrellFR @kenklippenstein Well because those were championed by conservatives. Which you know, you’re just applying party labels to it because you’re ashamed of conservative’s history.

@kenklippenstein History book is interesting. Says here it’s the party of slavery, Jim Crow, and the KKK. You’d think it was the other party with how much they talk about it.

ZOHRAN MAMDANI: "It is sad that for too many Americans when they want to look for ambition in the Democratic Party, they have to turn to a history book."

@unimpressedbufl @kenklippenstein You mean conservatives right?

@kenklippenstein (opens a history book) Democrats were the party of slavery, Jim Crow laws, segregation, welfare subsistence...

@mb_farley @itsyaboyywill @saint_cloudy Gen X keeps voting conservative

@itsyaboyywill @saint_cloudy Tell me how Gen X pulled the ladder up. They never had the controls. The geriatric Boomers are still running the show.

Generation Z is the worst generation in US History, by A LOT.

@Noybs2 @carolinapsycho1 @AndrewHilaryUS I’m saying you clearly haven’t read primary sources of the time. They saw Lincoln’s election as a threat to their way of life, which was defined by slavery. So in that sense, yes you don’t know anything. Or at the very least lack critical thinking skills

@Ohboycjs @carolinapsycho1 @AndrewHilaryUS So you're telling me that people who were dirt poor and didn't own slaves gave up their lives just to save slavery? And you tell me I don't know anything? 😆

This is fucking insane. The civil war wasn’t to end slavery, it was to KEEP slavery.