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@InfniteResrvoir @UnmitigatedAss It's true. I just think we have a bad habit of stopping at symptoms instead of addressing root causes generally - not just for transgenderism. That's why I find mental disorder lacking as a diagnosis.
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@DavidRTomlinson @theistbuster Yes, I found the following inescapable: An end Metaphysical assumptions A hierarchy of goods A moral law A doctrine of the human person Some kind of theology A liturgy A creed An anthropology A standard of truth Just a question of which.
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Dave T@DavidRTomlinson·
I worked for some time with two Atheists, both older than me. I would say that in their actions they were more Christian than many who would regard themselves a such. Their speed and forcefulness in defending their position, made me joke with them about being atheist-fundamentalists. What they told me was not-believing in God, Etc. Was more like believing, quite intensely, in no god, and being ready to defend that belief. A belief to be defended, rather than an absence of belief.
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@lsanger Sounds good! 😆
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Larry Sanger@lsanger·
Man has invented intelligent pseudo-agents. The people controlling them will be richer than anyone in history. We must get the moral and metaphysical questions right—it will determine the shape of civilization itself.
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@theistbuster Yes, I phrased that badly. I meant that my own position had become unfalsifiable in practice: I couldn’t name what evidence or argument would make me reconsider it. That made me realize I wasn’t being as open-minded as I thought.
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@OrdoFramework Thanks for sharing, but saying atheism is unfalsifiable is technically an error in logic and epistemology. Falsifiability refers to the ability to test a claim and potentially prove it wrong with empirical evidence. Theists claim a god exists, which is unfalsifiable.
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@theistbuster It was a cumulation of countless things. Key points were (1) I could not give any specific examples of what proof I'd need to believe in God (which made my atheism functionally unfalsifiable); (2) reading Aristotle & then Aquinas.
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The failures of the UK's child exploitation scandal are criminal, institutional, familial & political, but they are symptoms. The ignored cause is metaphysical. So the efforts made by @RupertLowe10 & @Sargon_of_Akkad will sadly always fail unless the cause is addressed head on.
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@RupertLowe10 @Sargon_of_Akkad And I think this post will be the last time I mention the plight of the country of my birth. The answer is available, fully reasoned - only virtue is needed to approach it. I have sympathy for those best placed to address the root cause of anything & wish them the best of luck.
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@RupertLowe10 @Sargon_of_Akkad The true test of heroism is not to say something is clearly terrible when our fellow subjects are blind. That's only a very basic first step. The real bravery is to dig all the way down until the first break with reality can be identified. I hope either Carl or Rupert will do it.
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On a call with other Christians y/day, I was jokingly introduced as a “papist” b/c I’m Catholic. I laughed. Then he asked if I was offended. Why? I was puzzled. The papacy is an office, not a personality cult. We don’t ignore truth, Scripture, Tradition. It's obviously hilarious.
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Cool story from my parish’s Theology on Tap event on LOTR tonight…my priest described reading the series when he was 16 and only went to Mass because his parents made him. He did not believe. He loved LOTR but described it as pre-evangelization of the Catholic worldview and virtues—sacrifice, friendship, hope, etc.—not an allegory. He believes LOTR awakened love for that worldview so that he was primed when the Holy Spirit called him to the priesthood at 18. And yes, Oliver, Father argued would have far less power as an allegory or more explicitly Catholic.
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@AuntyMatter The UK is a mess. The police, the hospital staff, the parents of the girls, the people who committed these atrocities, the people who keep pretending it it never happened, the head shaking, the unwillingness to even look at root causes. It's just all rotten to the core.
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Aunty Matter@AuntyMatter·
Just watched the debate. At last, some straight talking about what so many British girls and women have endured for decades. Their suffering was laid bare, along with the fixes we so desperately need. It’s too late for the victims who’ve already been destroyed, but if MP’s actually follow through, it might just stop this happening to others. There were the usual suspects, of course- “most child abuse is done by British men” blah- but we don’t even know what they mean by ‘British’. Yes, most child sexual abuse takes place in the home, but that horror is sadly common across the globe. It doesn’t excuse importing a form of racially motivated, organised mass rape and abuse that was previously unknown in our homeland- familial rape gangs consisting mainly of Pakistani men. Will something finally be done about the decades of suffering endured by our women and girls? 🙏🏻
Rupert Lowe MP@RupertLowe10

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@KillHarry25779 I do. And raising kids are downstream of getting these basics right.
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Lift heavy weight, run, don't eat junk food. Read Aquinas to make sense of the Bible, go to mass every Sunday/Holy Day of Obligation. Go to confession weekly. Say the rosary. That's all that's needed for a thriving, resilient civilization.
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@OrdoFramework That is a weird question to ask. 🤯🤔 Why wouldn't anyone seek truth? I'd think nobody will want to live in a bubble of misinformation and lies.
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Yesterday, someone asked me why I'm so interested in truth. She said that's very difficult & impossible to know, so why bother? It's just opinion vs opinion. Unfortunately, I was too polite to ask her if that meant her view wasn't necessarily true too. I should have said it.
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@catholicreveals I think being insecure about what we believe is true is healthy & overcorrecting is part of the process.
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Raphael Yoon 🇻🇦✝️@catholicreveals·
One of the struggles after Tuesday was trying to figure out why do I think I am not getting the right answers while trying to figure out what the right answers are.
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