Cory
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Cory
@DTCory
Una cum sede apostolica, Traditional Catholic. Hopeful future secular third order Dominican. Requiescat in Pace, Bishop Des Lauriers. St. Joseph pray for us. 🍄


You claim to denounce the practice of labeling as schismatics those totalists who do not accept the idea of the ICG, yet you seem less bothered by it when Bishop Guérard des Lauriers labeled as schismatics those who did not accept his thesis… “On the one hand, to reject the thesis and accept the consecration would obviously be schismatic. On the other hand, to reject the consecration and (apparently) accept the thesis is to degrade the latter into an eidetic abstraction (purely logical and detached from reality) which is no longer the Truth adequately compatible with reality. The consecration proves that whoever, even on a single point, is not for the thesis is, in reality, against the thesis: “Whoever is not with me is against me” (Luke 11:23).” Source : sodalitium.eu/vie-de-monseig… Moreover, according to Bishop Sanborn, the totalism destroys the apostolicity of the Church… “Why is not totalism a viable solution? Because it deprives the Church of the means to elect a legitimate successor of St. Peter. It ultimately destroys its apostolicity.” Source : mostholytrinityseminary.org/wp-content/upl… This probably explains why the website thethesis.us also published an article stating that : “The totalist position implies the extinguishment of the Catholic Church, whose hierarchy, they would have us believe, has completely disappeared off the face of the Earth, with no possibility of recovering it (unless we are to submit to ‘Pope’ Michael).” Source : ttu-files.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/TotalistRefuta…







The text from Frei Tiago and Bishop da Silva's video was posted online by an IGC advocate earlier today, but subsequently deleted. Here it is in an English translation again. "3 POSITIONS IN THE FACE OF THE VATICAN APOSTASY "Position of the Thesis of Cassiciacum (heretical): The hierarchy of the Church continues to be present in the Cardinals and Bishops of the new Church of Second Vatican Council. "Totalist position (schismatic): They do not want to elect a Pope and do not accept that a General Council can be held for this purpose. "Correct Catholic position: The hierarchy of the Church is present in the Bishops who preserve the Catholic Faith, and they can gather in a Council to elect the Pope." Timestamped: youtu.be/D1dDkCEXhw0?si… [/End.]



One aspect of the "Imperfect General Council" talk: Some hold that, in the Great Western Schism, Benedict XIII showed himself to be a schismatic, and thus not the Pope, by his refusal to resign and allow the Council to elect an undoubted Pope. Effectively, his actions were construed as contrary to the good and unity of the Church, and thus evidence of schism. This is the principle to which some of the Council advocates have started referring. At the beginning of this debate, there were suggestions that any clergy who wouldn't "get with the programme" would effectively be left behind, because their faithful would abandon them. It has become more frequent and clearer. If the advocates of a Council follow through, and elect a papal claimant, this is what will happen. Those who don't accept their actions or arguments will be cast as schismatics and outside the Church. This is why I said the other day, and why @AbbeDutertre said yesterday: if this is where this movement is going, it should just go ahead and do it. Those who do not accept the theology or arguments are already unnecessary for the proposed Council and the election, and it seems clear that some of its advocates are laying the ground for an accusation of schism in the future. This makes the current period look like a kind of "two warnings" situation to establish the "pertinacity" of clergy who do not accept the IGC plans. Again, those who think that people don't notice that this is the way they are talking are mistaken. We see what you are doing. But if this is so, there is no need for those clergy who think like this, or for the agreement of laity who agree with them. Get on and do what you're going to do quickly, and have done with it.

Idk if I can hold the SSPX position anymore. I feel like im leaning towards the IBP view.











