Damian Wootten

@DavidJManley3 @CptAncapistan I’m actually doing a fanfiction of the Clone Wars. Just finished this week, might share it pretty soon.

@CptAncapistan Democracy is mob rule, USA is a republic.

Are you libertarian enough to hate democracy?

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Weak arguments always do but thanks for showing everyone how much of an ass you are.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid You literally just did 🤦‍♂️🤯 I'll mute you now, this level of stupidity is doing my head in and reminds me of the saying from the great George Bernard Shaw: Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

He was also a National 𝐒𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐭 (he believed in an all-powerful State), but please don't remind Leftists about this as for some reason they find this very upsetting.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Really pathetic attempt at a dodge maybe you can use that AI to come up with a better response next time.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid Genuinely impressed you typed this much and said this little. That's a skill. Not a useful one, but still. 👏

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Hitler killed National Socialist, that must mean he mustn’t be a National Socialist. Hitler killed a fellow WW1 veteran, he mustn’t be a WW1 veteran, Hitler killed a man, mustn’t be a man. I haven’t touched it because it is a stupid line of argument.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid Also - this doesn't touch my actual point. You just proved it. Hitler murdered the faction pushing economic radicalism. The socialist programme died with them. Thanks for the confirmation.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Except Ernst Röhm openly saying it and was the leader of the Sturmabteilung (Storm Division) and was necessary for the formation of the SS Schutzstaffel to launch a Coup against them in the Night of The Long Knives. With Rudolf Hess’s admitting consolidation.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid No credible evidence the SA was planning a coup. That was Hitler's post-hoc justification. The real drivers: Röhm wanted to absorb the Reichswehr, which terrified the army and industrialists. Göring and Himmler did the rest.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid I mean you haven’t came here with any sources other than gifs so the burden of proof is on you comrade. I provide you bibliography, citations from across the political spectrum and the people directly involved. Maybe do some homework and stop using AI to fill your responses.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid You compared the DAF to the USSR to prove it was pro-worker - not noticing that both systems eliminated independent unions entirely. Take all the time you need to mull this over...

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid So why weren’t the other 50% not punished? Is it because it fit the demographics of working people in Germany? Not to mention having massive support from women and working class women with subsidies by far more generous than they are today along with massive subsidies everywhere?

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid 32 million "members" under a regime where non-membership had consequences isn't a workers' movement. It's coercion with a membership card.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Yes just like the Soviets did but I don’t hear you complaining that they killed the Mensheviks now do you? So your argument is that the German Labor Front wasn’t a Labor Union and that Gear representing Gleichschaltung(synchronization) meant nothing, just a happenstance?

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid The DAF wasn't a trade union — it replaced them. Independent unions were banned, offices seized, leaders arrested by the SS. That's not nationalisation, it's suppression.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Yeah it wasn’t what he thought thinking he was going to ride the wave of popular support and be one of the good Industrialist that supported workers. Never did he realize those sights would’ve been aimed at him. You know exactly what Hitler said he was going to do?

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid Though he was an early and lavish financial supporter of the Nazi Party, Thyssen eventually broke with the regime. Thyssen began distancing himself from the Nazis in the mid-1930s due to their persecution of the Church and the events of Kristallnacht.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Also the main industrial supporters were few and far between. The industrialist that did support him got their industries Nationalized. It was mostly a grass roots movement making most of its income ticket sales which operated in deficit. More importantly, I know you’re using AI.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid Seriously Damian, you are talking utter bullshit. 1. All these companies used slave labour from concentration camps! In fact I.G. Farben was the most notorious corporate collaborator with the concentration camp system. 2. Krupp never ended up in a concentration camp, Thyssen did

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid And you haven’t read a single report from Hermann Schmitz. He was warning the oil crisis going on at IG Farben and was saying that the use of Jews for slave labor was ineffective and produced half to a third of the need oil for military campaign. Problem was ideology came first.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Well if it wasn’t flooded with Communist historians which even they to some degree agree with if you backed them into a corner. If the Nazis are saying it, the Communist are saying it, the Capitalist are saying all the same thing, then you are the party that is wrong here.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid Historians across the entire political spectrum — left, right, centre — classify Nazism as far-right. This isn't contested in any serious academic literature. Confidently misreading a primary source doesn't make you educated. It makes you the guy who skimmed the index.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Yes so it’s actually a primary document. It is written in English for your convenience. You can get it in German if you want to but I don’t think most people here read German. It is a legal document on the why the war happened and recorded provided by Yale Institute.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid You linked the Nuremberg tribunal's own archive to make this argument. The document exists in that archive because it was used as evidence of a criminal conspiracy. That's quite a own-goal for a gotcha.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Correct the Karl Marx of National Socialism(his nickname), Rudolf Jung, was rejecting Karl Marx for his Jewish origins, ironically siting Karl Marx’s On The Jewish Question, to justify his Anti-Semitism. He then got into Gnostic nonsense following Guido von List’s occultism.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid Rudolf Jung's "National Socialism" (1919) explicitly rejects Marxist internationalism and defines socialism in purely ethnic terms — socialism FOR Germans, AGAINST Jews and foreigners. That's not a left-wing programme. That's ethnic nationalism with welfare aesthetics.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid I agree it’s a terrible read, extremely repetitive and badly written. However that’s why I brought up Rudolf Jung’s National Socialism. Not only is it better written and comprehensive, it was written before Mein Kampf. Hitler borrowed his ideas while in prison.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid Citing Mein Kampf as evidence of socialist intent is wild. It's 700 pages of racial hierarchy, lebensraum & antisemitism. The economic passages exist to mobilise workers — they're recruitment material, not policy commitments.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Not to mention got thrown out of his own factory and sent to a concentration camp. I imagine that’s exactly what Krupp had in mind when supporting him. Not to mention IG Farben was against using Jews as slave labor proving so by not having synthetic oil to the Caucus Mountains.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid In practice the Nazi state dissolved trade unions, banned strikes, and handed massive contracts to Krupp, Thyssen & IG Farben. If that's socialism, the word has lost all meaning. Follow the money, not the pamphlet.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Secondly he purged the SA Sturmabteilung because they planned another revolution against Hitler because they thought him too soft and not fulfilling the goals of National Socialism. Ernst Röhm, Hitler’s gay best friend was turning against him.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid Points 11-17 (nationalisation, profit-sharing, land reform) were largely NEVER implemented. The Strasser faction that pushed these seriously was murdered in the Night of the Long Knives, 1934. Hitler purged the actual "socialist" wing of his own party.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid They did, they nationalized all industries into 13 Corporations, same as the USSR. They Nationalized everything, even had Kommissars to set price controls, wage controls, rent, subsidies, quotas, labor, etc. Even have Communist historians back this up with primary sources.

@fstoner @GiveUsAQuid Yes it’s Race Socialism. It’s Socialism for the Aryans. They Nationalized the wealth of the Jews in the same way as the Marxist did with the Bourgeoisie. You might not like that Variant of Socialism but it doesn’t stop it from being Socialism.

@LowLifeInk1 @GiveUsAQuid The NSDAP's 25-point programme isn't separable into "social programmes." Points 4, 5, 7 & 8 explicitly strip citizenship, rights & residency from non-Germans by race. You can't cherrypick point 15 (pensions) and ignore point 4 (blood-based citizenship).