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@Vegas82 @hankrsmith You guys WANT Kolob to be a central part of the belief because it's easy to mock and confuse people with, but none of that is core to the faith. It's speculative or interesting but contains nothing salvific and certainly isn't taught on a weekly basis.

@hankrsmith You lie about what the core of your beliefs are by hiding them behind generic Christian beliefs. Hell, I know Mormons that didn't learn about Kolob until they were in their teens. That shit is pretty core to what you lot believe.

Or… we know our core beliefs better than you? Maybe?

@Donna_H67 @DChadwickAuthor But that never works out well for anyone. Blessed are the peacemakers. Mountain Meadows was less fighting back than vengeance anyway. No matter our treatment doing that to others is unjustifiable.

@double_hooks @DChadwickAuthor They've also never heard of Mountain Meadows. We do fight back hard if pushed enough.

A lot of people seem to think that this whole thing about the Department of War not classifying Mormons as Christians was a big deal about nothing, I can assure you it’s not nothing. What it was about was the participation, intentional or not, of the United States government in rhetoric meant to otherize Latter Day Saints from their fellow Americans, and there being an official document that makes it the position of that government a key line of this rhetoric; Mormons aren’t Christians. “But how does this affect the military?” Let me tell you a little story… I spent ten years enlisted in the United States Army, from 2000 to 2010. In 2007 I was reassigned to a research facility on Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland. I had just completed back to back deployments to Iraq with the 226th Med Log, and I had met a civilian girl at work and we started dating. Well word got around that not only was she dating the new soldier, but that the soldier was from Utah and was a Mormon. One day when she got back from lunch, she found her desk covered with anti Mormon literature. “What Mormons really believe” “Who was Joseph Smith?” “Eternal consequences of Mormonism” And so on. She was livid, and when she called me and told me what had happened, so was I. I had just risked my life across multiple deployments, and the thanks I got from the Christian employees in the department of defense was for them to try to convince my new girlfriend that I was demonic and that if she dated me she would go to hell. I confronted the guy who put that stuff on her desk and he was all “…I was only trying to protect her.” Protect her? From what? Your fellow Americans? From someone who wears a uniform that you never did? I told him I would be filing an EO complaint against him for what he’d done, and that’s exactly what I did. But then word got around about the complaint, and the civilian apparatus closed in on me, pressuring me to withdraw it because “he’s a good guy with a family. This will affect him long term. Come on, man, you don’t have to do this.” I hate to say it, but I did withdraw the complaint because I realized that if I went through with it, everybody I worked with would hate me. But it goes to show you that this kind of anti Mormon hate is rampant and known in the culture surrounding the United States military. So yeah, it affects members of the church in the military. There should be no official government document affirming anti Mormon rhetoric.

@Conserv9988613 @Cernovich Show me the Biblical definition of "Christian".

@Cernovich People who were gay will say they’re married, yet they’re not. You cannot change the definition to suit your beliefs. And Mormons cannot change the definition of Christian to suit their doctrine.

Every Mormon I know considers themself Christian. TBH I find these debates boring.

@IaidoTheory @Cernovich Ask them again, this time with actual words.

@Cernovich I know a bunch of Mormons. None of them considers themselves Christian. Not a single one.

@surskitmaxxing @LargeInStature_ Eternal marriage is sharing in God's glory forever. 100%. God's goal is to bring His family back into his presence, all of his children: us. So at a small scale, being like God is bringing our family back and sharing eternity with them and God.As above, so below.

@LargeInStature_ Is God is perfection itself, then shouldn’t an eternity with God be the greatest reward? If I was a Christian, I might think that Mormons idolize their families over God (it is per D&C 76 a higher reward to have an eternal marriage than it is to feel with God forever) Though…

Creedal Christians got to understand how unappealing their version of the afterlife seems to someone who grew up with the Restored Gospel. Your marriages and relationships are all annulled so you can worship at the feet of some formless, genderless other that exists outside of time and space. And I guess you just bask in his ambience for eternity. No progression. No growth. And if you don't worship him just right in this life, he sends you to burn in Hell forever! Me, my children, my sweet old grandma--we're all going to suffer eternal torment because we worshiped the "wrong Jesus" in this short life. It just sounds so unlike the loving Father that we know and worship. His plan for us, as we understand it, balances love and justice perfectly. We will ALL get the same opportunity to accept or reject His gospel. Not Mormonism. Not Catholicism, Protestantism--HIS gospel. (I'm sure this is full of mischaracterizations, but they do that shiz to us constantly, so idc.)

@23wjohnston @LargeInStature_ What carnal pleasures are we indulging in? The Law of Chastity is sex within marriage and only with your spouse. The Word of Wisdom prohibits alcohol and other substances. Polygamy is a useless argument against modern members who havent practiced it and have zero desire to do so.

St. Thomas Aquinas’s view of Muhammad can easily be applied Joseph Smith and the founding fathers of the Mormon church - “He (Muhammad/Smith) seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh urges us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected; he was obeyed by carnal men.” Aquinas contrasted this with Christianity, which he believed spread through divine signs and appeals to reason, not sensual incentives like polygamy or paradisiacal rewards involving virgins.

@BenjiYosef @jaredadairbell Very hard to tell. Even your "loving" post is an attempted dunk. Good luck out there! Keep doing your best, I know I need Jesus everyday.

@double_hooks @jaredadairbell You're projecting that. I nor christians wish evil on you or mormons. There isnt an ounce of vitriol either. Just love and sharing the truth.

Well, that’s because we do.

@BenjiYosef @jaredadairbell To be as vitriolic and evil wishing as you folks, no thanks. I believe my savior wants better from me.

@double_hooks @jaredadairbell With all love and respect when you you decide to pull your head out the hat and back to reality, the true Jesus will be waiting. 🙏

@gunslinger1000 @bilywonka Lol another red herring? Tell us about it! Mormons have to listen to Kolob and getting a planet nonstop, talk about red herrings.

Another mormon red herring. Just like other cults (Jehovah's witnesses, Mohammedans, etc), they're training to recite distractions when confronted. Nicene creed didn't make Peter James & John - nor anyone else - Christians. Putting their trust in Jesus as the eternal God did. IOW, not the god of demonic fraudster Joseph Smith.

Moment of silence for Peter, James, and John who lived before the Nicene Creed and therefore were not Christian :(

@Jetflight1017 @stackerco We literally live the way Jesus told us to.

@double_hooks @stackerco I have no doubt Mormons are mostly good people who live mostly good fulfilling lives. That’s not what’s in question though.

Who gets to define what is and isn’t a Christian?

@BenjiYosef @jaredadairbell

@double_hooks @jaredadairbell LDS dont even realize what a literal joke they are. You got this silly false doctrine making you look really foolish.

@BigBoss_Vamp @jaredadairbell I noticed you didn't either. As far as I can tell that same question wasn't asked, what I could find was general religious knowledge? Ie knowing about all religions, and Mormons were pretty average.

@double_hooks @jaredadairbell Show the 2019 study. Not one of you uses it. Deception at its finest.

@Jetflight1017 @stackerco Jesus never use the term. The term Christian also doesn't appear in the Bible. He defines he followers as loving, obedient, disciplined, and humble though. Which is definitely what Mormons aim for, too.

@stackerco Jesus. The bible. Not Joseph smith or his book

@ammosexualguy @KevinLabrum1 @hankrsmith That's what you got?

@KevinLabrum1 @hankrsmith Mormons believe their god is an alien from a different planet and the god of that planet found him worthy to be a god and gave him this planet. If they (mormons) are good enough they will be gods themselves. None of the aforementioned is a true Christian value

Being rejected by the Christians of the United States is not new. From Missouri to Illinois, government officials not only failed to protect our ancestors from persecution — they often joined in it. Saints were stripped of their rights, shot at, and expelled. Children were executed. Women were assaulted. Then, even after fleeing the country, that same government sent an army to follow their bloody footprints into the Rocky Mountains. Elected officials then continued to harass, malign, and threaten to confiscate the Church’s private property for decades. Now it is 2026, and the pattern has not entirely disappeared. The same government seeks to define what we believe. Voices on social media — most of them professing Christians — declare openly that our faith is obviously fraudulent or started by demons. Given that history, no one should be surprised when we respond with a touch of passion.

@300aacforme @hankrsmith Weird how that horrible incident, which is without excuse, happened after all the other horrible incidents against members of the LDS faith.

@hankrsmith i see you failed to mention the mountain meadows massacre

@LackTact @jakemmccleary "All we can do is offer the gospel." Proceeds to stoke contention, defame, encourage lies, and dehumanize those who he claimed are "brothers and sisters". You all can't wait to offer the warm end of a gun, stop talking about the gospel like you've followed it a day in your life.

1. Jesus would in fact be proud of us trying to prevent our brothers and sisters from eternally damning themselves by following a blatantly false cult that tries to validate itself by calling itself a church of Jesus Christ despite having beliefs that conflict with scripture. 2. We cannot get a single mormon to state an LDS belief in concrete terms aside from saying Jesus is Lord which literally all denominations say that so it doesn't clearly illustrate what makes LDS different from any other denomination. 3. Like Paul to the Athenians, all we can do is offer the gospel. 4. America is in fact worse off because of the LDS which is essentially lslam for white people. The entire state of Utah essentially being a theocratic mafia shows us as much.

Not that it matters or anyone cares, but here are my final thoughts on the “Are Mormons Christian?” debate: 1. I’m sure Jesus would be proud of “Christians” spending their sabbath pridefully gatekeeping Christianity and demonizing another Christian religion simply because they believe differently than they do. 2. I have yet to see an honest argument that actually cites Latter-Day Saint doctrine correctly. All the arguments against Mormonism distort our beliefs in a way to make it seem crazy and anti-Christian, and in so doing making discourse impossible. At least cite our doctrine correctly if you are going to argue, otherwise you look childish and silly. 3. I want all members of other religions who attacked us today to know one thing: You are changing ANY Mormon’s mind by your lazy arguments and anonymous account tweeting. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints have personal testimonies and witnesses that our beliefs are true. Through years of study and prayer, we believe in gaining a personal witness of what the truth is and we believe that we have found it here in our church and we invite others to do the same. So I’m sorry but all your efforts today probably only strengthened the faith of Latter-Day Saints. 4. Lastly, America is literally a better place because of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. While we are an international religion, you won’t find any other religion more Pro-American than us. I can provide more statistics here if interested. Anyways, I’m not anyone special, just someone who loves Jesus Christ and I am happy and proud to be member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Goodnight 😴

@InChristPTL @jakemmccleary No one says Joseph Smith is in the Bible. And you are correct, it only matters what God thinks - He'll sort us all out in the end so why can't we leave these stupid debates for him?

@jakemmccleary here's what you don't get. It doesn't matter what you think or I think, matters only what God thinks. His word IS truth.. not up for debate or your opinion. THAT is what people don't understand. Take it or leave it Joseph Smith is not in the Bible

@RBryan2 @jakemmccleary

@jakemmccleary 1. I’m sure Jesus would be proud of “Christians” spending their sabbath pridefully gatekeeping Christianity.... You like Jesus did? LDS do not believe in the biblical Jesus, LDS do not believe in the one whom God sent, LDS do not worship in truth, John 8:24; 6:29; 4:24