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@teslascope Translated: Your Tesla has currently installed Full Self-Driving (Supervised) software version v12.6.4.
• Your current software version is listed under your VIN.
Your vehicle is equipped with AI Computer 3 hardware, which supports the latest FSD features.
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@teslascope I have a service request ongoing on this because I paid for supervised but got capability which should resolve to supervised once the receiving OTA update

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We now have more confirmation that Full Self-Driving (Supervised) in Netherlands is for AI4 vehicles only at this time.
This means that HW3 vehicles in the European Union will either have to wait for the release of V14 Lite or a future hardware upgrade to access FSD.
Xander@xanderwasserman
Confirmed: FSD (Supervised) in the Netherlands is only for HW4 at this moment. This has been the general consensus, but good to have it officially confirmed. @teslascope @KRoelandschap @Rustavi
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@xanderwasserman @StephanW_ @teslascope @KRoelandschap @Rustavi So actually Tesla is now into scamming… did you get a refund?
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@StephanW_ @teslascope @KRoelandschap @Rustavi I tested it: you can subscribe, and your car will say that it has FSD supervised, but you will not be able to activate real FSD, it will just be Enahnced Autopilot with traffic light and stop sign recognition.
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Confirmed: FSD (Supervised) in the Netherlands is only for HW4 at this moment. This has been the general consensus, but good to have it officially confirmed.
@teslascope @KRoelandschap @Rustavi

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@xanderwasserman @teslascope @KRoelandschap @Rustavi Well I don’t get why it took my money then… did fill a service report this morning to gget it fixed or should return the 49 euro I already paid. Do not get why it did change to FSD in information panel though?

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Tesla AI Sr. Staff Engineer says Tesla has implemented a new software based Auto-Wiper system that uses the wiper motor itself as a tactile sensor.
Instead of relying solely on the front cameras, the system estimates the physical friction between the rubber wiper blade and the glass by analyzing the motor’s electrical power consumption.
The system will also automatically enable the defroster when high friction is detected, such as frost or ice. Additionally, it keeps a long-term friction level average to warn when wiper replacements are necessary due to higher than normal friction. Smart stuff!
I suspect this system will get better over time with OTA updates.


Yun-Ta Tsai@yunta_tsai
@seti_park We have already implemented it to all fleet.
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@sandrinok @KRoelandschap I bought the autopilot on highway option with the car in 2021 so that’s why it’s 49 euro and not 99 euro..
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@dutchdevil1983 @KRoelandschap I didn’t have lite option, only the 99 p/m option for the HW3 Model 3
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@remkes @KRoelandschap No FSD? Can someone explain what is included then for the 49 euro per month (I have bought the advanced autopilot already with the car)
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@dutchdevil1983 @KRoelandschap So, far this is a disappointment for HW3.
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@greentheonly Just in time for Europe release… no doubt this was also one of the requirements from RDW / Europe
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@KRoelandschap Just in time for my typical Dutch “5-year” company lease car trade in🥳 Will order somewhere next week so hopefully it can be actived upon delivery day 🙏
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FSD in Europe 🇪🇺
Today might just be the day we’ve all been waiting for
The wait has been long, painful at times even. There were times I honestly thought we were so close and then it all got pushed again
Please let it be true this time
Please don’t let us down RDW, we’re counting on you guys to make the right move
Autonomy will spread throughout Europe like a wildfire and completely reshape transportation and mobility as we now it
We are ready for the future
The future starts today!
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@Mancross @teslaeurope Lol, do you think FSD Supervised means you supervise it, but you can't take over? 🤣
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De toekomst van mobiliteit is aangebroken
FSD Supervised has been approved in the Netherlands 🇳🇱 & will begin rolling out in the country shortly!
Trained on billions of kilometers of real-world driving data, it can drive you almost anywhere under your supervision – from residential roads to city streets & highways
No other vehicle can do this.
We're excited to bring FSD Supervised to more European countries soon
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@Mancross @teslaeurope Absolutely! I’ve been running the EU Autopilot since my very first Tesla back in 2019. Seeing how much it has evolved in those years, I can only imagine how next-level the full FSD stack is going to be.
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@teslaeurope FSD is now approved in the Netherlands.
Would you sit in a self driving car at full speed with zero control?
Be honest 👇
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@teslaeurope Awesome news! I'll be ordering a new Tesla this week. Can't wait to pick it up and get FSD running. Do we know if the monthly subscription is launching right away? That way, I can put my lease budget into the car itself rather than dropping a lump sum on the software.
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@antigravity Step 1: Fix the quota nonsense.
Step 2: Stop treating paying customers like they’re on a free trial with a 7-day prison sentence.
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To the builders: we heard you. We're welcoming back everyone who recently had their Google Antigravity accounts restricted for use of third-party tools. Moving forward, we’ll have clear steps for users to restore their account if it’s restricted.
To maintain the integrity of Antigravity and ensure a great user experience for everyone, using third-party tools with your Antigravity login remains against our terms. We love seeing innovation and boundary-pushing in this community, and the Antigravity team is hyper-focused on building what you need to accelerate product development.
Can’t wait to see what you build!
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@penadev @DisruptivDecade @KRoelandschap I think you’re confusing the USA with the EU. I also wish approval were faster for my own sake, but looking at the safety perspective and the buggy early releases in the US, it was a wise decision to wait for a more mature version for Europe.
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@DisruptivDecade @KRoelandschap the EU is highly corrupt and subjugated by the legacy corporations, when you understand this fact every stupid regulation starts to make sense
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FSD in Europe 🇪🇺
Want to know why I’ve gotten so pessimistic in my timelines?
It’s because of exchanges like these between Tesla employees and in this instance the Norwegian 🇳🇴 Road Transport Authorities about applying for approval to start testing FSD v14
No matter how much data Tesla provides and how many times they explain their MO they just keep on getting these responses


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@DKnightHUN @DisruptivDecade @KRoelandschap 📜 EU Exemption History (Art. 39):
1️⃣ Auto Lane Change ('18) 🇩🇪: ✅ Passed
2️⃣ Hydrogen Tanks ('10s): ✅ Passed
3️⃣ Matrix LED ('13): ✅ Passed
Trend: When a member state (like NL 🇳🇱) validates safety, the EU committee historically approves. #Tesla #FSD
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@DisruptivDecade @KRoelandschap Yes and the EU committee is probably as trustworthy as before ☹️
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