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@superhumanity @josecanyousee Because there is a clear and constant trend of swing and infrequent voters showing up for someone who seems populist or socialist enough, regardless if they are black or not. And if the candidate is super establishment and doesn't seem to have union/rust belt endorsements...

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee What exactly are you disputing? Race was still a huge hurdle in that election.

is there going to be a post-mortem here? bc it seems like running a chronically online campaign with a monotone message of “AIPAC bad” isn’t exactly a winning strategy

@abcdleee @MikeNellis Then why did she get 5 percent and not split 50/50 with Kat?

@T84OplotM @MikeNellis I don't think thats necessarily true, but I think there's a difference. Bushra's voters were based largely in trust and relationship. That wasn't the case for 90% of kat voters- they're voting for progressive policy + online ability + being young, all of which Bushra has

The attacks against Bushra Amiwala on this website are fucking disgusting. You’re not entitled to her votes—and pretending they all would’ve gone to Kat if she dropped out is pure fantasy. That’s not how voters operate.

@pakis_tankie @Solidarity_Star @bushraamiwala And yet only a single nation that was once within, says so.

@T84OplotM @Solidarity_Star @bushraamiwala yeah well the Soviet Union was good, so...

I just want @bushraamiwala to know her ego has ruined her career forever. Had she dropped out it would have earned her a lot of left wing goodwill but now she is doomed to be the next Mondaire Jones.

@superhumanity @josecanyousee If that 9 percent didn't vote, they don't matter in terms of elections. If they did, they matter because millions stayed home. Look at the voter turnout, it's on Wikipedia and it's sourced up. The leaked after report says Harris lost because she lost leftists and econ swings

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee You forget that there are Latino men and Black men with religious views who may have shifted. Furthermore, even among Harris voters it seems some were reluctant

@superhumanity @josecanyousee I have seen footage in a "yay yay Obama is historical", documentary of racists saying they were voting for Obama because they knew they lived in the Rust Belt and he would protect them. Are we ignoring the Obama-Trump-Biden voters? Biden spent time pandering to the Rust Belt.

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee Racial attitudes were able to predict support for Trump in 2016 and the racial lens continues to be a huge hurdle for democrats that now simply gets ignored.

@superhumanity @josecanyousee And her voting record screams socialist to you and not conservative Democrat?

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee Yes, I'm someone who believes in change. I believe it when it comes to Platner and I believe it when it comes to Hillary. And to reiterate, I decide based on policy positions and votes

@superhumanity @josecanyousee Voters not politicians. Today's Democrat politicians say stuff that 1990s Republicans said. And she was saying worse stuff while in office. Do you think the head dem in the house or senate arent conservative Democrats? Do you think they or her, have or would go left of 46Biden

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee Yes, modern politicians are pro-capitalist and pro-interventionists. This is the norm and has been for some time sadly. But on the broad issues within the overton window, Democrats and Republicans are starkly different

@superhumanity @josecanyousee I tend to prefer sleeping with women who arent totally different from me. And I would hope it would be the same if we're ringed up and making babies. She never said she was totally different for him and she knew we thought she was just him again.

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee Firstly, I don't decide someone's politics based on their spouse or how much money they got from a certain group. That's just me. I decide based on what they vote for and what they say they support (if votes aren't available). And the data says she was no Reagan.

@superhumanity @josecanyousee All of those people are Evangelical "Christians". They're a product of the Puritans and how our nation was partially founded by insane people who banned dancing and had witch trials. Those people would never vote in a Democrat primary. MAGA isn't Trump, it's Left Behind books.

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee As late as 2024, almost one in five voters said they believed that a woman didn't belong in politics. That is a very steep hill to climb. A hill Biden didn't have to deal with

@superhumanity @josecanyousee Racial attitudes about Hillary or Harris?

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee Well, I was hearing different narratives. It was continually about her not going to certain places. There was data to suggest it was because of the Comey memo and also racial attitudes and attitudes surrounding gender theatlantic.com/politics/archi…

@mcmill2008 @ExMiserian597 @bushraamiwala @SenMikeSimmons @BankoleYasmeen Bliss claims to be a leftist. Fine isn't a leftist. Kat gets attacked by ads saying she isn't leftist enough. Why would this benefit Fine? Is something not clicking for you? I know he got pro money. The anti Kat money supports Bliss. So Bliss and Fine.

@T84OplotM @ExMiserian597 @bushraamiwala @SenMikeSimmons @BankoleYasmeen No. You are still confused. The only claim I am making here is that Fine and Kat were both supported by millions of outside spending. That’s it.

A special fuck you to @bushraamiwala @SenMikeSimmons and @BankoleYasmeen for putting your own egos ahead of the good of our country. You deserve to be blacklisted from politics.

@superhumanity @josecanyousee foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/27/hil… I mentioned her bad record with social, here is foreign.

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee I think Democrats and Republicans have always been in favor of interventionist measures and capitalism since the 1980s at least. That's nothing new. But she was way better on social programs and social issues imo. Not even close compared to Reagan

@mcmill2008 @ExMiserian597 @bushraamiwala @SenMikeSimmons @BankoleYasmeen Pro fine ads yes, but not anti kat ads. Unless you claim Fine is more leftist than the winner?

@T84OplotM @ExMiserian597 @bushraamiwala @SenMikeSimmons @BankoleYasmeen You are confused. AIPAC money absolutely propped up Laura Fine via attack ads against Kay and pro-Fine ads. Kat was also supported by millions of out of state donations.

@superhumanity @josecanyousee Super predators? Remember? She was like one of the last Democrats to say gay people were okay. She did it like years after Obama.

@superhumanity @josecanyousee She's like in the top ten or even five for most money given from weapons manufacturers to a Democrat. Her husband tried to dismantle the welfare state, murdered the Democrats being pro union, did three strikes lock up all the black people laws, ect ect. +

@KairoCast1 @walkeri141 "but Kat dropping out would cause Bushra to win." Not joking they keep saying this.

@walkeri141 Cool, so the person who lives there got only 5% of the vote. What does that say about her candidacy?

"If X Y and Z dropped out then Kat would have had a chance" Please listen to somebody who lives in IL-09, this is just not true. Simmons, Bushra etc got votes bc people wanted a Progressive candidate WHO LIVES HERE. Those votes don't auto go to Kat. Biss IS A PROGRESSIVE

@mcmill2008 @ExMiserian597 @bushraamiwala @SenMikeSimmons @BankoleYasmeen Attack ads that are leftist coded, push voters away from a candidate and to the left. You said outside money propped up the conservative. That's not how leftist coded attack ads work.

@T84OplotM @ExMiserian597 @bushraamiwala @SenMikeSimmons @BankoleYasmeen So what?

@superhumanity @josecanyousee The mortem was, logically, very similar to what happened to Harris. There are two stances, with sources, about what happened with Harris. Neither was about visiting the wrong places or not enough visits.

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee Well, the post mortem from leftists was that she lost because she didn't go to Michigan and other states. It wasn't about donors. However, I think as Bill Clinton proved, sometimes going to places can backfire and that was Hillary's reasoning at the time

@mcmill2008 @ExMiserian597 @bushraamiwala @SenMikeSimmons @BankoleYasmeen The money attacking Kat wasn't attacking her from the right, it was attacking her from the left. Which means it swayed toward Bliss not Fine.

@T84OplotM @ExMiserian597 @bushraamiwala @SenMikeSimmons @BankoleYasmeen Whether outside spending is good or bad is a completely separate question. You asked why last nights results happened. The answer is outside spending. Without it, Biss would have cleared 50%. Fine and Kat got tons of help from outside spending. This is just a fact.

@superhumanity @josecanyousee Charts say she's popular and yet millions of Democrats and swing voters stayed home when she ran. They showed up for Obama and Biden. They didn't show up for Hillary or Harris. Hillary didn't lose to just sexism. She voted like a 1990s Republican. Voters didn't want more Joe

@T84OplotM @josecanyousee It's just frustrating to me that there is a night and day reaction between Kamala and Kat when Kamala, we have to be clear, is very popular among dems