Paul
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@MPG37685458 @iAnonPatriot Well dumbo, the Iranian theocrats have been making war on Israel, the U.S. and their own citizens for 47 years. We did not start the war but we intend to end it before they build nukes and fire them at anybody in range. If that happens you might get a real taste of offensive war.
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@Happyja @grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek Not at all, your misunderstanding may have come from a famous scientific book called " a universe from nothing"
Spoiler.....despite the title it shows there is a whole lot of something in " nothing"
m.youtube.com/watch?v=vwzbU0…
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@pgphysio20 @grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek I see, so just move on to the next thing that is clearly impossible when you no longer can hold onto the old theory everyone told you was impossible. Great scientific theory. 😂😂
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@Happyja @grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek Changing your mind as evidence becomes available is an essential characteristic of a rational intelligence. However again you misrepresent the scientific consence
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@pgphysio20 @grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek So now atheists changed their opinion to everything was always here with no evidence to prove it, and it was always here for no reason at all. I’m supposed to just believe that without question? Thats some serious faith you have!
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@pgphysio20 @academic_la My faith does not hinge on either of those things being true.
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Here is why the Passover story of Egyptian Exodus is completely made up. Not only is there no evidence for it, but it is chronologically impossible. Not on the scale mentioned in the bible or on any scale at all:
1) Decades of intensive archaeological surveys in the Sinai Peninsula have failed to uncover any remains, such as pottery, encampments, or human waste, that would indicate a population of over two million people spent 40 years wandering the desert. Not one piece of pottery, one hearth, or one Hebrew inscription from that era has been found in the Sinai.
2) Ancient Egypt was a highly literate society with meticulous administrative records. Despite this, no Egyptian text from the Bronze Age mentions a mass slave revolt, the devastating plagues, or the loss of an entire army in the sea.
3) Modern archaeology suggests that the ancient Israelites were actually indigenous to Canaan. They appear to have emerged from local Canaanite populations during the Bronze Age collapse, rather than arriving as a conquering force from outside.
4) The biblical figure of 603,550 men (totaling roughly 2.5 million people including families) is logistically impossible for the time. A line of that many people, walking eight abreast, would have been hundreds of miles long, meaning the front would reach the destination while the back was still in Egypt.
5) The Book of Exodus mentions places like the city of Rameses and the land of Goshen, as well as the use of camels, which were not in existence or common at the time the events were supposed to have occurred. This suggests the story was written centuries later. Archaeology shows that at the time the conquest was supposed to happen, Jericho had no walls and was either a tiny village or completely uninhabited.
6) If 2.5 million people entered a land from Egypt, you would expect to see a sudden, massive shift in technology, diet, or burial customs. Instead, we see a slow, internal evolution. The people who became "Israelites" were likely local Canaanite farmers and nomadic herders who moved into the highlands to escape the collapse of the coastal city-states.
7) The Exodus is said to have took place well before there is evidence of Israelites existing. The bible has it at 1446 BCE. The first mention of Israelites is in 1208 by the Pharaoh Merneptah. He mentions them as a foreign people with no ties to Egypt.
8) The biggest hole in the story is that during the 13th century BCE (the time of Ramesses II), Canaan was an Egyptian province. Egypt had forts, tax collectors, and governors all over the "Promised Land."If the Israelites fled Egypt to go to Canaan, they were essentially "fleeing Egypt to go to Egypt."
9) The story appears to have been made up during the Babylonian Exile in the 6th century BCE. They needed a story to give them hope: a story where their God defeats a superpower Egypt) and leads them back to their homeland. By creating a shared "escape" story, they turned a collection of local Canaanite tribes into a single, unified nation.
So this is a beautiful story, but a complete myth. Its greatest value is that it has inspired many to pursue freedom, most famously African Americans who identified deeply with the story.
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@grahamh941 @Happyja @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek If he appeared on a TED talk and explained the science behind the creation of the universe i would give him a hearing
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@Happyja @pgphysio20 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek My answer goes back to the first post in the conversation and I've repeated it several times
Try capital letters:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD CONVINCE ME BUT A GENUINE GOD WOULD
Is that enough or do you want it in another font or colour to understand?
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@Happyja @grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek Embarrassing. Waiting 13 billion years and then having his messengers preach about the sin of wearing fabrics but forgetting to tell them that slavery was bad
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@grahamh941 @pgphysio20 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek What if he gave you a goal of learning, thinking, trying to figure it out, and believing, but all you do is sit there and demand proof be handed to you? Personally I’d be pissed.
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@Happyja @grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek Again....not from nothing.
Your god created trillions of planets just to trust his word to bronze age goat herders on one?
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@pgphysio20 @grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek So that’s your God that makes the impossible possible. And they all came into existence on a fluke for no reason at all, from nothing. That takes incredible blind faith to believe that.
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@Kate558140 @mysty812 Actually Jesus most likely was born in 6-4 bcc because that time king Herodes had all baby boys under 2 years killed because he tried to kill Jesus. So Jesus must have beem max. 2 years old by then.
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@jim_the_truth @academic_la Virgin births and resurrection from the dead could be easily added to your list
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@academic_la No one has ever lived to be 900+ years old either. A lot of biblical stories are just folklore, the legends of a people told through the embellishing lens of their best storytellers.
I believe in God. I don't believe that every word men have put to paper about him is true.
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@Happyja @grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek Thankfully there are trillions of planets so chance was on our side.
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@grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek Yes: Space cannot happen without time. Time can’t come from nowhere. Everything can’t start from nothing. Life can’t come from none-life Disorder does not create order. About a million things had to happen perfectly for life to exist on this planet for no reason……
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@Happyja @grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek And following your logic....gods can't be created without another god
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@Happyja @grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek Sadly it was left to people that never met him to record the claims decades later
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@grahamh941 @MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek That is his problem isn’t it? He sent his son, but many rejected him, and they killed him. He rose him from the dead, and his son walked around showing himself to hundreds of people. But people just claimed it never happened. So I don’t understand what atheists expect.
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@MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek Answer my question, what evidence do you need and expect?
Do you need proof that it can’t happen without a God?
Do you need God to tap you on the shoulder and say hi?
What do you want?
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@MackyMus_24 @DrFrankTurek What kind of evidence do you expect? Do you want God to come to earth, die, and then rise again and talk to hundreds of people or something? What do you want?
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@GameDevMikey @Isabelletkrause What process did you use to decide on your choice of God?
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@Ifyzzzy @Ernest1588761 If God wants to set an example, then why can’t he?
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@GameDevMikey @Isabelletkrause I assume you are an atheist in respect to the thousands of other gods claimed?
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@Isabelletkrause Based
I don’t hate atheists but I do think they are about as cringe as a person can be
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@BiTechiee @_OKJ__ Those are claims made many decades later by people that weren't there
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This was in fact made up.
Oliver Burdick@oliverburdick
500 people saw Jesus risen from the dead. You can't make this up.
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@pgphysio20 @BIG_J222 Of course it does. If there isn’t a God to create everything, then it came from nothing. Except that’s not possible, so I don’t know where you go from there.
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