Choco
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@4confusedemoji they keep losing their founders and giving anthropic their gpus... maybe in 2027
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wasn't xai training a 10t? they have the opportunity to do the funniest thing to the claudeboys
Choco@RobotChocobo
@4confusedemoji if you have anthropic llm psychosis, it's gonna be a bad time because this is gonna happen again and again
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It did not backfire. Being banned for being too powerful is the best IPO marketing ever.
nicolas, 30 ans@nic_carter
I can’t believe Anthropic comparing their product to nuclear weapons 800 times backfired on them. I am shocked
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@firstadopter Andy Jassy, famously known as a technically clueless government bureaucrat
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Let's not put technically clueless government bureaucrats in power over the economy and the AI industry. This is America.
tae kim@firstadopter
Anthropic, OpenAI, and Nvidia are national treasures. How about the government not kneecap hard-won American technology leadership with strategically myopic export controls and instead let our best engineers cook? No more dumb policy moves, please.
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@zampulu92728 @firstadopter Or what other natsec basis USG has for this.
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@zampulu92728 @firstadopter Exactly. This is being shared uncritically and these losers have no idea what Amazon presented to USG.
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"this action has taken the best models away from defenders, created market uncertainty, and risked America’s AI leadership without any real risk to justify it."
"We, the undersigned executives and technical leaders from across the United States, write to you to ask you to lift the export control directives on Anthropic’s Fable and Mythos large language models"
"To pull the best capabilities away from defenders without a good reason when our adversaries are rapidly advancing is dangerous."
"Can be replicated on GPT-5.5, Opus, Sonnet and even Chinese models like Kimi 2.7. The justification for this unprecedented action was that Fable provides a unique “uplift” of capabilities beyond other AI models, but AI has been finding bugs and generating working exploits at superhuman levels since last year."
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Cyber experts warn Fable limits aid attackers and hurts defenders axios.com/2026/06/15/ant…
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@firstadopter Unserious people calling it "without any real risk." All of these people should be fired.
They don't address the claim that Mythos (again not just Fable) models were being bootlegged by Chinese hackers.
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Anthropic emailed saying I'm banned for 'fraudulent, abusive or predatory practices' which means negative external-facing actions - spreading misinformation, etc.
Nothing I've done remotely resembles that + they provide no context.
I still don't believe they're evil but do believe they're sleepwalking into becoming one of the most dystopian companies in practice.
This is likely due to their culture being hit with so much criticism - often in bad faith - that they've build a robust internal reasoning structure that makes their path and policies immune to most valid external criticism.
When you understand this, all the things that seem evil - their dishonest misrepresentation of OpenAI in their Superbowl ads, random bans w/o reasoning, baiting government with Mythos blog, Fable silent degradation - makes sense.
They're doing it because they believe that they're fundamentally the good guys and the end there justifies the means. Any evidence to the contrary never makes it through the filters.
As a result, they are in practice an enemy of many of the foundations that made AI possible in the first place - open science, open knowledge and even free enterprise - and everyone who works there (yes, including @karpathy) in effect supports this.
You are what you do, despite your noble intentions.
POM@peterom
My view on Anthropic is that they're fundamentally good, well-meaning people trying to do their best. But the telling part isn't that they fixed the invisible safeguards - it's that 'tell the user' wasn't the default in the first place. Nobody in the room thought people were owed notice that their outputs were being quietly degraded. This is the product of a belief, mostly unspoken externally, that they're the adults in the room - that everyone else is either misguided, a threat, or lemmings who need to be led. And it's driving them, without meaning to, to dismantle the principles of open knowledge and open science that made AI progress (and their own company) possible in the first place. The unspoken premise underneath it all: only they can be trusted to reach AGI first, to constrain everyone who'd do otherwise, and to walk us down the golden path. History's verdict on people who believed that has never been kind.
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@firstadopter why hasn't Anthropic admitted that Chinese hackers were selling bootlegged Mythos (not just Fable) tokens?
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The U.S. government needs to reverse the Anthropic export control NOW
From Beyond the Hype: "the US Government approach, as has been the hallmark of current administration, is poorly thought out, random, and harebrained. It does not even comprehend that a very large number of frontier AI model developers today are foreigners."
"If the US government chooses to exercise its power to indefinitely delay a model on whimsy, the economics of the future AI buildouts start becoming questionable."
"The US Government’s action to restrict access on a whim set a precedent for future frontier models. A big question going forward is what it means when a government can initiate and back off from consequential decisions such as this at a drop of a hat. Especially when it comes to technology like AI which is seen as critical for the entire world?"
"Domestic firms will have to plan for alternatives at the model layer as there is a risk that the model they chose may not be available. Companies cannot allow random government decrees to stall their workflows and must diversify."
"Foreign companies and governments will find themselves cut off from access to cutting-edge models, some of which they may already be working with. This kind of disruption will not be acceptable both in terms of economic and national interest."
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missing Fable 5 so much
not even talking about coding
it was just so much smarter at ingesting data, writing files, and connecting things
Opus is ok at these things (honestly, much better than GPT-5.5), but Fable was on another level
while it was around, I've processed 15+ hours of video, YouTube competitors, screen frames and thumbnails, patterns and anti-patterns
it was the first model that really made me feel like I can trust it with knowing what I want, how to store it reliably
the more I analyze the work that this model has produced for me, the more I realize that Fable was the first model that has a better understanding of how AI works
and that resulted in it creating files and prompts that are dramatically better than anything any other model would produce
hope it comes back soon because it feels like we went backwards bad
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@RobotChocobo @ashleevance You’ve already said all we need to know. Thanks.
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Quick. Someone say it was China.
But it's really well sourced, right? Well, there was a person familiar
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@scaling01 What the fuck are you talking about?
Anthropic signed a deal with the NSA that OpenAI did not agree to because of surveillance red lines.
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the admin says whatever suits them, because they are used to no consequences
they don't like Anthropic because they actually have a spine and will stand up to them
unlike OpenAI who takes any bone the admin throws them
Greggy being the 2nd largest Trump admin supporter also totally doesn't have anything to do with it
Lisan al Gaib@scaling01
yeah really tough decision who to believe > the adminstration that supports pedophiles, nazis, genocide and insider trading > or the guy with a PhD from Princeton who built AGI if you believe a single word the Trump admin says you really have 0 cogsec
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@tayvano_ @ashleevance i'll share with you if you agree to it but you can find it if you take like 5 minutes
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@tayvano_ @ashleevance If I do I want an apology and you have to take down all of your retarded pro Anthropic posts
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I wonder what Elon thinks about all this.
If he is now a major compute provider for Anthropic, this whole Fable mess suddenly matters a lot more.
Geo restrictions, backlash, usage limits, safety fallbacks, angry builders.
That compute deal probably looked like a beautiful cash cow.
But if Anthropic fumbles trust and access, that cash cow could dry up very fast.
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