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@okayestpoet @DigitalSamIAm It’s a cute cartoon for sure, but I’m failing to see how spaceX is chewing up and slitting out the average citizen? If anything, it’s savaged the tax payer billions while creating thousands of new millionaires. Everyone has benefited from this company, directly or indirectly

@DigitalSamIAm How you look

Can we debunk this nonsense? Elon Musk was awarded (note: not given) cost-per-result contracts to perform a service for the US government. The total of those for SpaceX specifically is ~$22B, which includes repaid loans, state tax incentives, etc. The deal was simple: put stuff into LEO at or below a set cost. If SpaceX does it below the set cost, SpaceX keeps the difference. If it doesn’t, the company is responsible for the overrun. End result? SpaceX & Elon lowered the cost of getting 1 kg into LEO by 95-97% vs what NASA was paying previously. And for the record, every other company around at the time was offered the same opportunity to bid on the contract - Musk/SpaceX just took it. The handout narrative implies the taxpayer is the patron and SpaceX the dependent. The cost data shows the opposite: before SpaceX, NASA paid Russia’s Soyuz $80-86M per seat; SpaceX delivered at ~$55 million. SpaceX saved the US taxpayer $300M-$465M each year on that alone (the US sends 12-15 astronauts to space each year) On the lunar lander, NASA estimated SpaceX’s fixed-price bid saved $20B-$30B vs the Boeing-preferred cost-plus approach. So: SpaceX saved the US taxpayer more than the total value of contracts it earned on a single project, PLUS provided the US government with the requested services (put stuff in LEO) at the best possible price.

@AlexJediMasta @meechelleb22 I’m guessing the 4000 newly minted millionaires at spaceX don’t feel exploited, but what do I know?

@meechelleb22 You’re pushing billionaire propaganda. Wake the fuck up. There’s no actual way to gain that much wealth without exploiting people. Look at how unaffordable everything is. There’s a direct correlation between how expensive everything is and how rich people like him are

Why are people mad that Elon is rich? He earned his money, right? If I make $50/hr and my neighbor makes $10/hr.... do i owe my neighbor some of my wealth because I earn more than him? Someone explain this to me like I'm 5, because I don't get it. Envy i can understand. But hating Elon and expecting things from him because he has more money than everyone else? I don't get it.

@jungleasianfc @meechelleb22 I think that’s what starklink, spaceX, Tesla, and neurolink is all about… solving problems for our neighbors and their children.

@meechelleb22 You do owe your neighbor….dont you care about the children?….(am I doing this right?)

@louielogics1984 @N0RINCO @adjustleft @meechelleb22 You’re forgetting the very convenient fact that all spacX employees making wages below union averages just became millionaires because of the company’s inherent value. Ask grok if unions are able to replicate that.

@N0RINCO @adjustleft @meechelleb22 Baker, look closer. While non union wages have increased at a slightly higher pace recently Union jobs still have a 10-20% higher wage in all sectors. Pennies on the dollar flow from my local to the international union—I know the numbers because it’s completely transparent.

@DavidLcitizen @brivael Apparently. You can hate what he stands for and still agree that he’s solving some of the worlds biggest problems. You can also agree the money he’s earned is probably better left in his hands given his track record with it VS the government.

@SScience83 @brivael I hate this guy and everything he stands for.

Je vais partir du principe que tu es de bonne foi, parce que ton raisonnement est intuitif et que 90% des gens le partagent. Mais il repose sur trois erreurs factuelles, et ça vaut le coup de les regarder calmement. Erreur 1 : la fortune d'Elon n'est pas un tas d'argent. C'est de la propriété d'usines, de fusées et de satellites. "Prendre la moitié de sa tune", concrètement, ça veut dire forcer la vente de la moitié de SpaceX et Tesla. L'argent ne sort pas d'un coffre, il sort des entreprises elles-mêmes, qui passent sous contrôle de fonds étrangers ou d'États. Tu ne redistribues pas du cash, tu démantèles un outil de production. C'est la différence entre récolter des pommes et découper le pommier. Erreur 2 : "ça résout énormément de problèmes dans le monde". Cette expérience a déjà été tentée, en vrai. En 2021, le directeur du Programme Alimentaire Mondial de l'ONU a affirmé que 6 milliards de Musk pouvaient "résoudre la faim dans le monde". Réponse d'Elon : décrivez-moi exactement comment, comptabilité publique à l'appui, et je vends mes actions Tesla immédiatement. Le PAM a publié son plan. Verdict : ce n'était pas "résoudre la faim", c'était nourrir 42 millions de personnes pendant un an. Un an. Puis il faut re-payer, pour toujours. Le PAM avait d'ailleurs levé 8,4 milliards l'année précédente, et la faim était toujours là. Les ONG traitent les symptômes en boucle, jamais les causes, parce que leur financement dépend de l'existence du problème. Erreur 3, la plus importante : tu cherches ce qui sort vraiment les gens de la pauvreté. Bonne nouvelle, on a la réponse, et elle est massive. En 1990, 36% de l'humanité vivait dans l'extrême pauvreté. Aujourd'hui, moins de 9%. Plus d'un milliard de personnes sorties de la misère en 30 ans. Par quoi ? Pas par la charité ni par l'aide internationale (plus de 1 000 milliards versés à l'Afrique en 60 ans pour un résultat à peu près nul). Par l'ouverture des marchés, l'industrialisation, le commerce. La Chine seule a sorti 800 millions de personnes de la pauvreté en abandonnant le collectivisme, pas en taxant ses entrepreneurs. Donc fais le calcul complet. Option A : tu confisques 500 milliards, tu finances quelques années de programmes, l'argent est consommé, et tu as détruit la machine qui produisait les fusées, les voitures électriques et l'internet des zones rurales. Option B : tu laisses le meilleur allocateur de capital de sa génération réinvestir 100% de sa fortune dans des industries qui baissent les coûts pour tout le monde et emploient des centaines de milliers de personnes. L'option A soulage ta morale pendant 18 mois. L'option B sort des populations entières de la pauvreté pour toujours. La pauvreté ne se redistribue pas. Elle se résout par la création. C'est contre-intuitif, c'est frustrant, mais c'est ce que disent 200 ans de données.

@mofodabest @JustaMikeB @C2Constantine @washghost1 In English, please.

@SScience83 @JustaMikeB @C2Constantine @washghost1 no fuck you and wrong cause I’m not 1000% right

Can’t even go to Sesame Place without some nonsense going on

Abolitionists are Rising! The culture is shifting. What was once dismissed as impossible is becoming reality. They said the culture would never change, and yet our message is reaching more people than ever. They said no one would run on a clear abolition platform, and yet abolitionists are winning elections. They said abolitionism would stay fringe, and yet it is steadily moving into the mainstream. Oklahoma now has a candidate for governor who is openly running as an abolitionist: Jake Merrick. The idea of abolitionist leadership is no longer far-fetched. Abolition is inevitable.  The question is: will you stand with us as we call our nation to repent and abolish abortion completely?

@OrionTanka0716 @GeigerTweeter @emilysavesusa 1% of his income or his wealth?

@GeigerTweeter @emilysavesusa My income paid for my wealth. My stocks haven't realized yet. So the $$$ in my accounts were taxed at 35%. His was 1%.

Can any dumbass on the left explain to me how Elon Musk having $1 trillion affects your life negatively in ANY way?

@OrionTanka0716 @bobross_jay @emilysavesusa I don’t pay taxes on my total net worth because of investments, just like Elon. I’m sure if own assets long term- a home, a retirement account, a PENSION, stocks, you don’t pay taxes on those items either. Same, same, see. Easy.

@bobross_jay @emilysavesusa Then the rich pay a lower share of their wealth in taxes v. the middle class. That's not fair. If Elon pays 1%, we all should pay 1%.

@DavidLcitizen @brivael If you want the state to take part in Elon’s wealth, do what the Canadian teachers union did and buy shares of spacX. Everyone wins. Everyone prospers. It doesn’t have to be a zero sum game. But taking from the most innovative man in recent history is wildly out of pocket.

@brivael Corrigeons un truc (je suis plutôt d’accord avec ce que vous dites d’ailleurs) : taxer Elon Musk n’implique pas de « démanteler un outil de production », il suffit que l’Etat devienne propriétaire d’actions. Tellement farfelu que trump lui-même a soulevé cette idée il y a 2 jours

What's being defended isn't billionaires. What's being defended is the principle that rights belong to everyone, including successful people. The moment you decide someone's rights disappear because they're too wealthy, you've abandoned rights altogether and replaced them with political favoritism. Your position isn't that rights are universal. It's that rights are conditional on serving your demands. The billionaire is just today's unpopular exception. Tomorrow it'll be the millionaire. Then the small business owner. Then anyone with more than you.

If the socialists had their way, Elon would have had his paypal profits taken and redistributed for the greater good. The world would never have seen Tesla, nor SpaceX. And the world wouldn't know it, because they were uncreated, and thus unseen. Imagine the companies that don't exist, because Washington destroyed them before they were born.

Cute theory, let's play it out. A monkey hoards a trillion bananas. The troop, enraged, beats him to death. They gather around the pile to feast at last. But... oh wait, there is no pile. It turns out the "bananas" were shares in a banana-launching company the dead monkey founded. The shares were worth a trillion because he was alive to run it. Now he is dead and the stock is worth $0. The retarded monkeys have clubbed their way into a recession. But it gets worse. Half the "bananas" were tied up in a rocket that supplies bananas to monkeys on the far mountain who had no bananas at all. Another chunk was tied up in a little satellite dish that beamed banana coordinates to the troop after a flood took out their trees. So now they realized they beat to death the only monkey who knew how the dish worked. So the monkeys sit there. No bananas. No rockets. No coordinates to get more banananas. Just a dead body and a powerful sense of fairness as they all now became infinitely poorer. OH And somewhere a smaller monkey watches the whole thing and quietly decides he will never build anything in front of these animals again.

@GlobalWresOrder @tdogg2213 He said shut up, your response was vulgar. Might as well change your name to Incredible GWO

@SScience83 @tdogg2213 No I don’t. This guy above insulted me and I insulted him back. Without his comment I would’ve never said anything to him.

This dudes an embarrassment to the wrestling community. He’s not a wrestler, he’s a football player.

@GlobalWresOrder @tdogg2213 You sound a lot more like Josh than you realize.

@tdogg2213 Blow me!

@Smitty_xyz @lanniteri @0xCygaar Every single human being who’s had a huge impact on society can be found to have a flaw. Ceasar Chavez? MLK? George Washington? Couldn’t name a single person who’s in a history book but doesn’t have a flaw you can demonize them for.

@lanniteri @0xCygaar He said lotta stuff people called low IQ back then and he proved everybody wrong multiple times I wouldnt bet against Elon in terms of money and business But as a human he's lacking

Greatest test of intelligence is asking someone what they think of Elon Musk

@Smitty_xyz @jnnfir @0xCygaar Is every successful person who contributes to society subject to the most strict purity test? By your definition MLK wasn’t a good person overall too.

@jnnfir @0xCygaar As a business man he's a genius As a person overall? Hell no

@ZmelekotB @hunt_javon74385 @Memesandmkts @inneroperator @RyanClogg It isn’t perfect, but it’s unquestionably the best.

@hunt_javon74385 @Memesandmkts @inneroperator @RyanClogg Well, This's American capitalism at itsbest. This's what American politicians sold you saying, this's the best system in the world. Is it though ?

Everyone is talking about Elon Musk, and the SpaceX IPO. But a trillion isn’t exactly what you think it is. w/@inneroperator Shout out to @RyanClogg

@NKY_Leftist @louisminguey SpaceX has put more satellites in orbit than all other nations in its nascent beginnings. You can think Elon for full internet coverage across the globe.

SpaceX didn't create anything. The stock market is simply fake. Over the last 3 years SpaceX has actually had a net loss of nearly $9B. Only one of those years was slightly profitable, yet it's worth almost as much as Microsoft, which had a net income of $263B over that time.