Inazuma

Hope to read more next year

@amroosh062 I don't know, there is always a chance of any work getting translation by some enthusiasts, but realistically it seems too niche to count on it

@firstclasscrook Will this ever get a tl? Sounds interesting.

Next. If having to tinker with downgrading Adobe AIR for this shit to even work is not a sign of kamige I don't know what is

@2hollis145 Thanks, but I've managed to make it work already

@wa2ispeak Really depends lol, I can not read at all for a month or read for 12 hours a day till I finish what I'm reading now. This is the second variant

@firstclasscrook Yeah I wouldn't call it life changing or kami either but it was really fun to play Just curious though, many hours do you read a day? Cause damn you finish stuff quickly

Finished Manosaba, stunning presentation and great pacing kept me engaged all the way. For the most part thought-out murder mystery with good character work, but finale feels kinda rushed and less satifying than it could be. A bit short of kami status, but very enjoyable game

@oubagaku Yeah, I don't find it slog because it felt even faster paced than first part, but I guess the game peaked around ending of first part-beginning of second for me

@firstclasscrook mostly agree. i found the middle part of the second part a bit of a slog. once the wow factor of what happened wore off, i was a little bored. agree with your opinion on the ending as well. art was absolutely incredible though, music was great too

@tatarytch 4 I guess

@firstclasscrook _/5?

@TheQuench149 At least not in english, maybe in other language some group at least tried in good faith, but in english you have a triple combo of 'translations' by pretty bad traslator, literal schizo and MTL, on top of already insanely hard to convey in other language work

@firstclasscrook Is there a good translation of cross channel?

I agree that Ryuukishi prose is mediocre and serviceable at best, but basing it on english TL is pretty stupid. Like for english readers Cross channel is unreadable dogshit and Fata Morgana is a great prose example, which would sound insane to anyone reading original text

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@firstclasscrook what game is thissss

I'm totally the first to read this hidden gem, right

@romancoxy Yeah, not arguing with it or saying that you can't criticize TL prose, just asking to have self-awareness that prose of all things changes the most and calling it *Author*'s prose reading a translation is unfair. If this came as anti-translation, was not the intention

@firstclasscrook In not-native language, the weight of the translation is as big as the original vision of the author. The good translator could heighten the weak points of the work, and vice versa. Should the points be heightened? Well, that's another topic tbh

@NateHoobs Every single post about it I saw recently brought TL as an example of prose being bad/repetitive, if someone says so based on japanese text, then good for them and my original post is not targeted at them anyway if it's not obvious from wording. With being late I can live fine

@firstclasscrook Huh? The people that said Ryukishi's prose was bad in the first place were the ones that learned Japanese? This is a decade long discussion. You are too late for this

People have already said those things about Ryukishi's prose in original and translated English. What are people even arguing about?

@nyannyathotep It's literally the single example I can think of where japanese original VN reads better in english, what opinion is held by 'japanese readership' you can bring to them instead

@firstclasscrook I'm sure it's unreadable dogshit (which is your initial juxtaposition), which I'm sure is an opinion held by all of its Japanese readership.

@nyannyathotep I'm literally bringing it as an example of good prose in translation compared to more amateurish in original text though?

@firstclasscrook The unsolicited seethe average JOP holds towards Fata Morgana will never not be funny.

@viwer_ Yeah, Nasu works are probably the biggest victim of it, at least I heard that in latest SN and HA remasters TL is more worthy of it

@firstclasscrook When people tried to say the same about nasu its like what are we even talking about.

@formlessbore Yeah, Ragnarok is the least consistent in quality light VN I read tbh, it redeems itself to some extent like 5 hours till the end, but it's a huge downgrade from first two games in pretty much everything

Finished Zero Infinity. Quality chuuni, but it being my 10th light chuunige made me feel deja vu a bit too much, a very typical light work, exponentially better the less you familiar with their catalogue. Takahama route and parts of the final one are still great, so there's that

@formlessbore Good job reading it as first jp VN though, really impressive

@formlessbore Yeah, I can agree that it goes beyond Masada copy in last routes and many of that became a foundation for Silverio. But I already read Silverio too, so even if it's not fair for ZI, that predates it, I couldn't help but feel that I've seen it before...