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@TruthJourneySW @ryanswalters73 John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

@ryanswalters73 ... Those are minor problems. This is the BIGGEST Problem... JESUS' Own Words Tear Apart 'The Book of Mormon' 👇🏼 x.com/i/status/20663…

A Few Problems with Joseph Smith's Book "As archaeology became more professionalized and reliable, it became clear that some of the plants, animals, and artifacts mentioned in passing were out of place in pre-Columbian America, including horses, cattle, asses, goats, swine, elephants, wheat, silk, iron, steel, brass, and chariots. More recently, DNA studies have failed to find connections between Native Americans and Near Eastern peoples, and no non-Mormon linguists have recognized any direct contact between New World and Old World languages. There are no authenticated reports of pre-Columbian New World sites that show any evidence of Old World influence in the form of pottery, tools, weapons, inscriptions, or agricultural products." - Grant Hardy

@pricekris2005 @j_divis You bring up a good point, that Grace doesn't just save us but it changes us so we become "new creatures" and are better people with good inclinations. Let's just leave it at that. We got some differences but we have a lot in common too.🫡

@uptimecontinuum @j_divis that would be a misunderstanding of grace - Romans 6 grace changes a persons desires and will as we submit to Gods word, it’s called sanctification so, will we be perfect, no, but we want to be pleasing to our Savior, but our works in no way merit even part of our salvation

This book will change your life if you read it with real intent and purpose.

@pricekris2005 @j_divis So let me ask you: We agree we are saved by Grace. Fine. You say Grace alone? Does this mean we don't need to do anything? What about keeping the commandments? or good works. I can lie cheat and steal but thru the Grace of the Lord I am saved?

@pricekris2005 @j_divis "Not only did Joseph say he received new revelation, but he said he needed to RESTORE a new church because the faith of the apostles had died..Got it. Joseph Smith never said the faith of the apostles had died.

@pricekris2005 @j_divis No wait, I'm getting a little confused lol. Hold on.

@pricekris2005 @j_divis Acts 2:38 Peter commands the people to repent and be baptized. Acts 2:41 about 3,000 people were baptized. Acts 9:18 Paul is baptized and many other examples of this ordinance are given in Acts.

@uptimecontinuum @j_divis any system requiring ordinances or human merit for justification departs from the apostolic gospel

@pricekris2005 @j_divis Where did Joseph Smith say he needed to create a new church because the faith of the apostles had died? Matthew 16:18 The word Rock is used for priesthood. ..the gates of hell shall not prevail against the priesthood. "Preserve" is not used btw.

@uptimecontinuum @j_divis not only did Joseph say he received new revelation, but he said he needed to create a new church because the faith of the apostles had died. didn’t Jesus say he would preserve his church and the gates of hell could not prevail against it?

@pricekris2005 @j_divis The Isaiah verses in the B of Mormon are more clear, there are no contradictions. John 1:1? What contradiction? Gal 1:8 Paul is saying if any man or angel preach any other gospel.. let him be accursed. Joseph Smith taught the same gospel of Christ Paul did

@uptimecontinuum @j_divis a little different? i’d say complete contradictions. how about John 1:1 …. Gal 1:8. mormons believe later extra-biblical revelation, from angels visiting Joseph Smith… 🤔

@pricekris2005 @j_divis Some of the Isaiah verses may by a little different. What else?

@uptimecontinuum @j_divis or how it contradicts scripture over and over….

@RealDarylJames @hvworlton @Primary_Pianist I think the basic doctrine is the same but you're right, the Book of Mormon doesn't mention everything we practice in the church today. I don't think anyone said it did.

One of the stranger claims I see online is that “Mormons don’t know their own doctrine.” As someone who has spent decades in the Church, I find that accusation difficult to take seriously. 🧵

@abby_palmer1 @Other_Sheep_ This judgement at death is not the final judgement. And baptism is absolutely required for those who desire the highest heaven

@Other_Sheep_ When you die you are judged. There is no scriptural context for baptizing for the dead. And baptizim is not a requirement of salvation. You can accept Christ's gift of salvation not be baptized and still will be in heaven.

Why would Christ preach to those who are dead if they don’t have the opportunity to accept him after this life? And if they do, do they not need baptism? And if they do need baptism how do they get baptized after they died?

@RealDarylJames @hvworlton @Primary_Pianist Is this a problem for you?

@hvworlton @Primary_Pianist The Book of Mormon does not include the distinction between salvation and exaltation, three degrees of glory, premortal existence, proxy work for the dead, temple marriage, or other basic components of the plan of salvation, as the doctrine currently exists in the church.

@RealOrdCatholic @dojphofficial You are wrong here. The church follows the Savior. Joseph Smith died and the church continues on.

@uptimecontinuum @dojphofficial Based on who, joseph smith? Mormonism doesn’t stand without joseph smith, period! Christianity stands with Christ, always!

1/ It shoukd be offensive to ANY Christian, the @dojphofficial conceded by adding @LDSchurch to a list of “Christian” religions… Mormons may be good people but they are not Christian… Let’s explore why below 👇🧵

@RealOrdCatholic @dojphofficial Time to go to church and partake of the sacrament in remembrance of the Lord's body and blood. How 'bout you? Do you go every week too?

@uptimecontinuum @dojphofficial Yep, but it goes back to the central question which got all this debate going in the first place Is mormonism Christian? The answer to that is NO Joseph smith does not get to redefine God, Christ or the Church You feel strongly about your faith, great…it’s just not Christian

@RealOrdCatholic @dojphofficial You feel strongly about your beliefs and I feel strongly about mine. All good.

18/ Full-circle: Mormonism may borrow Christian language. It may use Christian symbols. It may speak constantly about Jesus. But Christianity is defined by who God is. And on that question, mormonism and Christianity give fundamentally different answers. @dojphofficial

@jmbrim3 Eternal burnings...

@uptimecontinuum I thought so too!

Joseph Smith did not ask, “Is there a true church on the earth.” He asked, “Which church should he join.” Going into the grove he assumed at least one had to be true. He wanted to find it and join it. What a powerful insight from Truman Madsen.