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randomly@Randomlyscript·
I tracked the conversation and your position switched between modalism and partitioning Both are heresies I have a question If Jesus was God; why did Peter call him the servant of God? And why did he always directed his worship to the Father; whom he called the only true God?
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Chris Trade@ChrisTrade4·
@Randomlyscript @Fitrah46782412 @9ushaman @deusimpera John contradiction himself then? John 1:1 The Word was God. John 1:18 the only-begotten God John 8:58 Before Abraham was, I AM. John 20:28 Thomas calls Jesus My Lord and my God. You assume functional distinction = ontological inequality.
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Chris Trade@ChrisTrade4·
@Randomlyscript @Fitrah46782412 @9ushaman @deusimpera Or maybe cherry picking isn't going to help your cause? Given what Peter stated is not out of line from Paul statement and the rest of John statements. So how about you focus on that? Out the mouth of 2 or more witness is the standard.
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randomly@Randomlyscript·
@ChrisTrade4 @Fitrah46782412 @9ushaman @deusimpera We can stay with Peter if you don’t want to tell me that John is an anonymously written gospel by a community that has nothing to do with Apostle John Now; for Peter; whom was Jesus a servant of? While he was God?
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Chris Trade@ChrisTrade4·
@Randomlyscript @Fitrah46782412 @9ushaman @deusimpera Or you can acknowledge your argument is rediculious given you need to prove verbatim that oral teachings from the apostles is invalid and papyrus was cheap and actually common use like the pen and paper today. Or how about with zero evidence we must just believe Muhammad
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Chris Trade@ChrisTrade4·
@Fitrah46782412 @Randomlyscript @9ushaman @deusimpera You're having issues distinguishing between modalism and trinity. Nevertheless the core belief is the same, which is irrelevant since this isn't Christianity vs Christianity but Islam vs Christianity. AND I believe we are done since you've failed to answer my questions.
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Chris Trade@ChrisTrade4·
@Fitrah46782412 @Randomlyscript @9ushaman @deusimpera Answer my question, before you go on about heresy. Or is this a one way street where you dictate to me I must answer you questions? Why cant you answer this 1. Can God cease to be God? 2. Does God have sovereign free will?
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Chris Trade@ChrisTrade4·
@Fitrah46782412 @Randomlyscript @9ushaman @deusimpera You stated Yes God has free sovereign will Now your contradicting yourself. God has the sovereignty free will to self limit in a mode of operation. Was God being a semi God when he restrained himself from wiping out the Israelites when they worshipped the Golden Calf?
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Chris Trade@ChrisTrade4·
@Fitrah46782412 @Randomlyscript @9ushaman @deusimpera So show me where divinity was changed. John 1:14 The Word became flesh. Action added, essence unchanged. Where's the change in divinity? Hebrews 13:8 “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.” Malachi 3:6 “For I the Lord do not change.”
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randomly@Randomlyscript·
@ChrisTrade4 @Fitrah46782412 @9ushaman @deusimpera The Quran is the word of Gods The Gospels are the biographies of the life of Jesus The Quran in itself proves it can only come form God The Gospels must establish eyewitness authorship and mutual attestation to be credible
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Chris Trade@ChrisTrade4·
@Randomlyscript @Fitrah46782412 @9ushaman @deusimpera The Quran is not the word of God. You've failed to provide Muhammad actually met Gabriel. Wheres the proof? Your god makes the same human logical error of the trinity, doesn't understand metaphysics but besides that, legally it is has no legal standing.
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