@kommandoman @stalinslefthook @After__History The criticism from the left was industrialisation wasn't being pursued enough and fast enough during the 20's
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@stalinslefthook @Sam36020536 @After__History but the question remains, though c could a les industrialized but militarily more competent Soviet union in the 1930s in the early great depression of defeated Poland and Germany?
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Had Trotsky won, his USSR would have been, ironically, far more bureaucratic than Stalin’s, and that is not necessarily a bad thing. The problem with Stalinism is that it was not bureaucratic enough. A powerful bureaucracy means greater stability and less terror.
Picket line shield 🛡@BasedNeeble1917
@rappergamertag Because genuine marxists are for workers democracy, not stalinist bureaucracy. So instead of idolizing the ussr, it is critiqued and understood why it failed. Idk read revolution betrayed.
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@hecubian_devil @evan7257 One of my wacky mystic friends who claims to hear from Jesus claimed Trump was chosen by God. And now I'm like wait maybe she was right all along, just for totally different reasons than I thought she meant.
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Trump admin making a strong case that sufficiently inept imperialism is functionally indistinguishable from anti-imperialism.
No one else could’ve given Iran such an advantageous peace. Can’t believe I ever doubted JDPON Don.
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@stalinslefthook @After__History Yes China. Then you should read more about what happened in China during the 20s. Revolution was on the table in 1927, but reheated menshevik ideas about 'stages' lead workers into disastrous class collaboration and the massacre of the party cadre
marxists.org/archive/trotsk…
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@Sam36020536 @After__History Wait why are we talking about china? China has nothing to do with this. Idk anything about the 1927 thing
Am as big a fan of industrialization as they come, but the NEP was needed for a reason. The country had been destroyed after 8 years of war
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@stalinslefthook @After__History They adopted class collaboration and this lead to failure in 27, when 1927 should have been a second 1917. They tailed the bourgeoisie, did not take power when the opportunity arose, and lead workers into an avoidable defeat.
Yes Industrialisation should have begun in 23
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@Sam36020536 @After__History They allied with the kmt to fight the Japanese. What exactly was their other option?
Begun industrialization in 1923? They just finished the civil war
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@TalkSoccer @WilliePStyle It is well-documented in numerous global studies that home teams trailing by one goal in professional matches receive more stoppage time than their visiting counterparts in the same situation. Why not do away with the method of unintentional referee bias by making clocks public?
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I say this with no malice whatsoever…
Keep watching and learning the game and then you will understand stoppage time is one of the smartest “rules” in all sports.
Jeremy@JeromeyR0me
As an American who watches soccer once every four years - I have never understood stoppage time. Why does the timekeeper get carte blanche on adding extra time and how come we don’t know exactly when the half will end? It feels so arbitrary and intentionally opaque
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@TalkSoccer Give the ref control of time/stop the clock, show it on the scoreboard. Biggest change will be more advanced time-wasting strategies once teams know exactly how much time is left, but thats already built into other sports, better than perpetually guessing how much time is left
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@TalkSoccer No it’s really stupid. Just stop the clock or at the very least let us know exactly how much stoppage time refs are doing, not keep it a mystery
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@fertile_trotsky @stalinslefthook @After__History You're being silly. Extraction of surplus value from the peasantry via taxation and inequitable exchange would have maintained their consent better than the primitive accumulation that was eventually used. Further not waiting 10 years to start would have helped
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@Sam36020536 @stalinslefthook @After__History Everyone wanted to industrialize; the issue was how. The industrialization that occurred did so on the basis of a peasant-proletariat alliance, handling the peasantry carefully.
The left opp. wanted to do it at such a pace that wasn’t economically possible at that time
Fertile Trotsky@fertile_trotsky
@rappergamertag I think this misses the main point: industrialization COULDN’T have happened earlier. Industrialization needed to be funded by the peasants, at their expense—everyone agreed on this. But in the early-mid 20’s, the peasants hadn’t recovered economically, so it was impossible t>>>
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@stalinslefthook @After__History What vast resources would have been required to tell the ccp NOT to ally themselves with their class enemy in the KMT? Why would beginning industrialisation half a decade earlier have hurt the overall industrialisation goals?
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@Sam36020536 @After__History There's no way fomenting and supporting world revolution and the level of industrialization needed to defeat Hitler could have been done simultaneously
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@stalinslefthook @After__History The left opposition platform was for intense industrialisation. It was in adopting aspects of this policy of industrialisation that got Stalin his reputation as an arch centrist
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@After__History Had trotsky won the ussr wouldn't have survived hitler. Industrialization in the periphery was a large part of what saved the red army, places like magnitogorsk/tankograd for example
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@carriesayshuh @kaitybella If you're in Australia it's been nearly a decade since just tapping became the universal norm
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@kaitybella the machine at the table sitch is way more common than not where i am (prob like 80/20 or more?), but it’s kinda odd to think that someone not from the US would be this baffled at paying the bill the old-fashioned way
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I know this is me being deeply american but I find paying with a little machine at the table SO gauche lol. like I genuinely dislike it
Skylar Skye@SkylarSkye3
Pardon my ignorance as a Brit but I thought I was getting robbed by the waitress after they took my card behind their till at a restaurant. Turns out this is just what they do and then they make you sign the bill after. Apparently this is normal but I’ve never seen it anywhere
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@hazel_ost @KiddSpade1 I thought Wellington died like 2018ish? Last time I was there it was pretty depressing.
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@KiddSpade1 Skill issue; this is strictly a suburban malaise. You gotta be proactive. Move to Wellington, go to local arts and music events regularly, be friendly to people in the smoking area… then try and tell me with a straight face that we have no culture.
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This is real and the lack of it is why living in New Zealand makes you want to kill yourself
melville@yourfriendmell
Biggest update from visiting Paris: the lived culture matters more than I thought. Everyone eats and drinks out. People walk around a lot. They’re very social. Still lots of activity at 2am Friday and Saturday It’s amazing
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@corialias @HankHeil To be honest it's made me feel better about getting older. I may not be aging that gracefully, but at least I've not got this much of a complex about it
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@njsilvadyne @ettingermentum No, the Democrats history is not at all like the typical western Labour or Social Democratic Party
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@ettingermentum hasnt that just been the base of the democratic party since its foundation
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@navajofelon Sure, but the levels of repression necessary to quell revolution in places like Indonesia were many orders of magnitude worse than anything done in the US. Though, of course, the Black US working class was treated much more like those in the colonies
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Where did all the communists in the US go after WWII? Ours weren’t genocided like they were in the global south. No need. They had switched sides peacefully
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@Sanele_NS @caraksha103 It's so much easier to deal with. If you have information early you can anticipate problems then even if they can't be solved you can push them up. Then when the crisis does come no one is busy screaming, 'why wasn't I informed!' Makes the whole thing smoother, less stressful
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@caraksha103 Keeping your boss informed isn’t about begging for attention, it’s about reducing surprises.
People tend to trust professionals who communicate progress, delays, risks, and solutions proactively.
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@realMrJackpots @Patar4950 "The stars above in heaven are looking kindly down. Glory, glory, hallelujah. The souls of Gaza go marching on!" - Finkelstien 7/10/23
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@Patar4950 Didn’t he go on Piers Morgan right after October 7 and say he cried tears of joy? He didn’t even wait like so many others for Israel to “overreact” but just came out in full support right away. People doing weird revisionism just because he attacked some far right nuts.
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What a complete and utter lie, Finkelstein’s initial comments compared Al-Aqsa Flood to the Nat Turner rebellion.
The Palestine News Network@PaliNewsNetwork
I’ve always loved and supported Norman Finklestein However i noticed immediately after October 7 that in all his interviews he talked about how he was unsure how to feel and was wrestling so much with whether it was right or wrong/ good or bad etc For someone’s life work and source of livelihood to be The Palestinian Struggle … and you don’t know how to feel when the crushed people of Gaza rise miraculously with an uprising nobody thought was possible It shows there is a Big Disconnect Which is why Palestinian / Arab Voices should always be the primary spokespeople for The Cause
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@PaliNewsNetwork The souls of Gaza go marching on!" - Norman Finkelstien 7th October 2023
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@PaliNewsNetwork I, for one, will never begrudge — on the contrary, it warms every fiber of my soul — the scenes of Gaza's smiling children as their arrogant Jewish supremacist oppressors have, finally, been humbled. The stars above in heaven are looking kindly down. Glory, glory, hallelujah.
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I’ve always loved and supported Norman Finklestein
However i noticed immediately after October 7 that in all his interviews he talked about how he was unsure how to feel and was wrestling so much with whether it was right or wrong/ good or bad etc
For someone’s life work and source of livelihood to be The Palestinian Struggle … and you don’t know how to feel when the crushed people of Gaza rise miraculously with an uprising nobody thought was possible
It shows there is a Big Disconnect
Which is why Palestinian / Arab Voices should always be the primary spokespeople for The Cause
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@thirdintl @gayest_tone @butleriano Israeli's 'right to exist' requires genocide and ethnic cleansing. Zionism in general does. Anyone who supports Zionism is complicit and should be treated accordingly. Regardless of if they are Jewish
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@gayest_tone @butleriano So you’re saying you’re not so much bothered that Israelis are killing kids in Gaza through collective punishment (in fact you support collective blame). You’re bothered because Israelis don’t have a right to exist
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Its pretty clear that the Gaza war broke the version of antifascism these guys had by having Israel go “yeah no actually we’re going to do every single thing that online nazis said we do and brag about it, and we’ll destroy your democracy if you try and stop us”
Daniel Baryon@AnarkYouTube
Enormous swaths of the left have caved to right-wing political framing and are rapidly becoming right-wing in their beliefs as well. It is sad to see how many supposedly committed revolutionaries will cede ground to reaction when their back is against the wall.
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