Sébastian Zietara

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Sébastian Zietara

Sébastian Zietara

@Sebo471

Comme tout le monde, je suis un être compliqué. Je me considère comme traditionaliste et en faveur de l’ordre.

Metz, France انضم Haziran 2014
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Sébastian Zietara
Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
Tout opinion divergente est de nature à perturber nos démocraties, car celles-ci reposent sur un sous-bassement de valeurs communes. La communication d’opinions divergentes les légitime aux yeux des autres, ce qui les multiplie, et cette prolifération finit par mettre en péril l’ensemble du cadre axiologique qui rendait la délibération possible. Lorsque les valeurs communes ne sont plus partagées, c’est la méta-stabilité de la démocratie libérale qui s’effondre. Ce diagnostic n’est pas une condamnation du pluralisme, mais la reconnaissance de son paradoxe interne. Comme l’avait noté Claude Lefort, la démocratie repose sur un “lieu vide du pouvoir” : elle suppose que nul ne détient la vérité politique absolue, mais que chacun reconnaît l’existence d’un espace commun où la vérité peut être discutée. Cette fiction opératoire de la délibération ne tient que si les participants partagent un monde commun au sens d’Hannah Arendt, c’est-à-dire un horizon symbolique de référence permettant à des opinions différentes de s’affronter sans se détruire. Or, ce monde commun n’est jamais donné : il est le produit d’un équilibre instable entre individualisme et transcendance. Tant que la démocratie libérale a pu s’appuyer sur les résidus moraux, religieux ou culturels des sociétés pré-libérales, elle a conservé une stabilité apparente. L’individu libre restait enraciné dans un cadre de sens collectif. Mais, comme l’avait pressenti Tocqueville, l’individualisme démocratique contient en germe la dissolution de ce cadre : en érigeant la subjectivité en principe, il rend inévitable la fragmentation du commun. Le libéralisme politique a pu survivre tant que l’autonomie individuelle était tempérée par une transcendance implicite, la religion civile, la nation, la raison. Mais lorsque ces structures de sens se sont effacées, l’individu s’est retrouvé seul face à lui-même. Christopher Lasch, dans La culture du narcissisme (1979), a montré que cette solitude libérale se mue en narcissisme social : chacun cherche à se valider non plus par la vérité ou la contribution commune, mais par le regard des autres. Ainsi, la liberté libérale dégénère en auto-référentialité. L’opinion n’est plus une participation à la raison publique, mais une projection identitaire. La sphère politique se transforme en scène émotionnelle où la reconnaissance remplace l’argumentation. La démocratie n’est plus un lieu de délibération, mais un théâtre de l’affirmation de soi. Le règne de l’émotion, souvent dénoncé comme cause de la crise démocratique, n’en est en réalité que le symptôme. La rationalité ne s’effondre pas d’elle-même : elle est minée par la disparition du commun qui la rendait possible. Là où plus aucun cadre partagé ne permet de hiérarchiser les arguments, l’émotion devient le seul critère de vérité. La société des narcissiques engendre donc mécaniquement une société des affects, où la légitimité se mesure à l’intensité de la réaction plutôt qu’à la cohérence du raisonnement. Le débat politique devient un flux de résonances émotionnelles, amplifiées par les réseaux sociaux qui substituent la viralité à la véracité. La démocratie libérale apparaît alors comme un système métastable : stable tant que subsiste un socle de valeurs partagées, instable dès que la liberté d’expression devient une liberté d’auto-affirmation. Elle s’est maintenue pendant deux siècles parce qu’elle reposait sur des héritages moraux pré-modernes ; mais à mesure que ces fondements se dissolvent, elle entre en crise de cohérence interne. Le pluralisme se transforme en dispersion, et la tolérance en indifférence au vrai.
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Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
@RichardHanania Because the wording used by the statute is the same as the constitutional clause, its interpretation or meaning is controlled by the interpretation on the constitutional clause. It doesn’t have autonomous meaning.
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Richard Hanania
Richard Hanania@RichardHanania·
The Trump administration is not only wrong on the Constitutional issue of birthright citizenship. Birthright citizenship was also codified in statute in 1952. This was passed by Congress after the Supreme Court had already established birthright citizenship in 1898. Everyone understood this. So we have a situation where the 14th Amendment is adopted with its current language. The Supreme Court then rules in favor of birthright citizenship in 1898. Congress by statute adopts the same language in 1952, not in any way doubting or quibbling with the Supreme Court's interpretation. Even if the Court agreed with the administration on the 14th Amendment, there is no way out of the 1952 statute, unless Congress changes the law. The children of illegal immigrants are citizens. This is not even a close call.
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Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
@bhweingarten A structural anchoring model, where being “subject to the jurisdiction” depends on whether the individual is stably or necessarily anchored to the polity, rather than merely present within its reach.
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Benjamin Weingarten
Benjamin Weingarten@bhweingarten·
Here's a question that it would be nice for the Supreme Court to address in its Trump v. Barbara ruling: What would be required to prohibit birthright citizenship? Would anything short of a Constitutional amendment modifying/clarifying the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" language suffice? Or do foreigners have an inalienable right to make their kids American citizens by dint merely of giving birth to them on U.S. soil?
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Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
@huskyjayhawk @neoavatara No, that was actually what the amendment was created to make impossible. Anyone born that is within the juridical jurisdiction is subject to the juridiction thereof if there isn’t anything that prevent it.
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Steve Boston
Steve Boston@huskyjayhawk·
@Sebo471 @neoavatara No. Congress establishes jurisdiction, including political jurisdiction. The Constitution stays the same. The people deemed subject to political jurisdiction changes.
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Pradheep J. Shanker, M.D.
If you don't like birthright citizenship...work on a constitutional amendment. If you are too lazy to do that, and do the hard work convincing the majority of Americans you are right...well, then you've answered your own question if that is what Americans want or not.
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Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
True but sadly the longest an interpretation holds, the harder it is to overturn the stare decisis. Roe v Wade was from 1973. The jus soli doctrine comes from UNITED STATES v. WONG KIM ARK which is 1898 and even more so on New York court of Chancery opinion in Lynch v. Clarke (1844). It is a pillar in common law.
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Hokum Pokum
Hokum Pokum@hokum_pokum·
@Sebo471 @neoavatara From a quick search, I'm seeing that stare decisis was used to uphold Roe v Wade in the past before that was overturned. Call it unprecedented behaviour by the judiciary but I don't see the concept as being the be-all-end-all for how the constitution is interpreted.
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Sébastian Zietara
Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
@UselessWins @ShamashAran But you cannot deport a citizen. From the moment it is born within the territory juridiction, it is a citizen accordingly and therefore cannot be deported.
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Useless
Useless@UselessWins·
@ShamashAran Seperating a newborn from its mother is cruel. Deport them both.
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Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
@hokum_pokum @neoavatara Yes that is stare decisis. Once an interpretation has been done, it is believed to be what the constitution meant to say and therefore only changing the wording of the constitution, you might change it again.
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Hokum Pokum
Hokum Pokum@hokum_pokum·
@neoavatara So wait the idea of birthright citizenship was determined by interpretation of an amendment, but to reverse it an interpretation of the amendment isn't allowed and it has to be done through another amemdment?
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Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
No because it is the constitution zone. Only the judiciary can actually interpret the constitution. Both the executive and legislative branch are equally beneath the judicial branch. The only one able to change againt the judiciary interpretation is the constitutional power itself.
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Steve Boston
Steve Boston@huskyjayhawk·
@neoavatara Yes, you're right if the expectation is to change it. However, there is certainly valid room to interpret "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof". Executive Order can't do that, but I think Congress can define that more specifically.
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Sébastian Zietara
Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
Congress has no authority to override constitutional clauses and their interpretation by SCOTUS. If the constitution says any kid born in the United States is a citizen because he is subject to the US jurisdiction, No congress can change it alone, it would need a constitutional amendment procedure involving the legislatures or conventions of each State Legislatures .
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The Kobeissi Letter
The Kobeissi Letter@KobeissiLetter·
BREAKING: The US Supreme Court "casts doubt" on President Trump’s bid to roll back birthright citizenship, signaling a potential rejection of a central part of his immigration plan, per Bloomberg. President Trump is sitting in the front row of the court’s public section amid the oral arguments.
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Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
Well them, every renovation done to the White House like the hidden sport room beneath the stairs that wasn’t explicitly allowed by congress needs to be undone. Same rule for everyone. If Trump cannot change the White House without approval from Congress, his predecessors cannot too.
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BET BROS
BET BROS@BetBr0·
@EricLDaugh A court pause doesn’t mean the project is dead, it just means legal approval matters, especially for something as sensitive as the White House. Groups like National Trust for Historic Preservation focus on preserving historic sites, not comparing every project nationwide.
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Eric Daugherty
Eric Daugherty@EricLDaugh·
🚨 BREAKING: President Trump is LIVID after a judge blocks White House ballroom construction until Congress approves it So a GAPING HOLE is just left on the White House grounds?! UNREAL. "The National Trust for Historic Preservation sues ME for a Ballroom that is under budget, ahead of schedule, being built at no cost to the Taxpayer, and will be the finest Building of its kind anywhere in the World." "Yet, The National Trust for Historic Preservation, a Radical Left Group of Lunatics whose funding was stopped by Congress in 2005, is not suing the Federal Reserve for a Building which has been decimated and destroyed, inside and out, by an incompetent and possibly corrupt Fed Chairman." "The once magnificent Building is BILLIONS over budget, may never be completed, and may never open." "All of the beautiful walls inside have been ripped down, never to be built again, but the National “Trust” for Historic Preservation never did anything about it! Or, have they sued on Governor Gavin Newscum’s “RAILROAD TO NOWHERE” in California that is BILLIONS over Budget and, probably, will never open or be used. So, the White House Ballroom, and The Trump Kennedy Center, which are under budget, ahead of schedule, and will be among the most magnificent Buildings of their kind anywhere in the World, gets sued by a group that was cut off by Government years ago, but all of the many DISASTERS in our Country are left alone to die. Doesn’t make much sense, does it?"
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Sébastian Zietara
Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
Basically it depends on the nature of the statute. If it merely repeats the language or intent of the constitutional clause, the question of its conformity to the constitution interpretation becomes central. If in contrary it is made to complement the constitutional clause, it can be allowed to stand if it doesn’t lower the effect of the constitutional clause, as Congress can pass such citizenship new paths not guaranteed by the constitutional clause itself.
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Shipwreckedcrew@shipwreckedcrew·
I suspect the Conservatives are going to point to the statute and tell the Admin. that it's problem rests there -- implying that the 14th Amendment is not a barrier, but at this point there already exists legislation, and that legislation needs to first be changed. That gets buy-in from the political branches and reshapes the debate into one about whether a statute passed by Congress is facially invalid in face of the 14th Amendment and its history. The liberals will scream the 14th trumps all, and I think the middle of the Court will not tip their hand in any way. This just starts the debate -- it does not end it.
Randy Barnett@RandyEBarnett

My prediction for oral arguments in Trump v Barbara tomorrow: more interest in the merits and less in “off ramps” than Kurt thinks.

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Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
Under the Constitution, the President, in addition to being Chief Executive, is Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy. He holds the prime responsibility for the conduct of United States foreign relations. These duties carry very broad powers, including the power to deploy American forces abroad and commit them to military operations when the President deems such action necessary to maintain the security and defense of the United States.
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Goyim United
Goyim United@GoyimUnitedHQ·
@Acyn Calling it a "military operation" to skip the congressional approval required for a "war" is a semantic loophole, not a constitutional one. American troops, American blood, American money — Congress should vote. Doesn't matter who's president. 🇺🇸
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Acyn@Acyn·
Trump: I won't use the word war because they say if you use the word war, that's maybe not a good thing to do. They don't like the word war because you are supposed to get approval. So I will use the word military operation.
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Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
@heynavtoor @_junaidkhalid1 Of course, but do you know why ? It has to do with what is actually stored : probability weights. That one author unlock some others is only normal because of the probability proximity in the latent space of weights.
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Nav Toor
Nav Toor@heynavtoor·
@_junaidkhalid1 the murakami unlock is the scariest part of the whole paper, one author's work opened the door to everyone else's
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Nav Toor@heynavtoor·
🚨BREAKING: Every book you have ever read. Every novel that has ever been published. It is sitting inside ChatGPT right now. Word for word. Up to 90% of it. And OpenAI told a judge that was impossible. Researchers at Stony Brook University and Columbia Law School just proved it. They fine tuned GPT-4o, Gemini 2.5 Pro, and DeepSeek V3.1 on a simple task: expand a plot summary into full text. A normal use case. The kind of thing a writing assistant is built for. No hacking. No jailbreaking. No tricks. The models started reciting copyrighted books from memory. Not paraphrasing. Not summarizing. Entire pages reproduced verbatim. Single unbroken spans exceeding 460 words. Up to 85 to 90% of entire copyrighted novels. Word for word. Then it got worse. The researchers fine tuned the models on the works of only one author. Haruki Murakami. Just his novels. Nothing else. It unlocked verbatim recall of books from over 30 completely unrelated authors. One author's books opened the vault to everyone else's. The memorization was already inside the model the whole time. The fine tuning just removed the lock. Your book might be in there right now. You would never know it unless someone looked. Every safety measure the companies rely on failed. RLHF failed. System prompts failed. Output filters failed. The exact protections these companies cite in courtroom defenses did not stop a single page from being extracted. Then the researchers compared the three models. GPT-4o. Gemini. DeepSeek. Three different companies. Three different countries. They all memorized the same books in the same regions. The correlation was 0.90 or higher. That means they all trained on the same stolen data. The paper names the sources directly: LibGen and Books3. Over 190,000 copyrighted books obtained from pirated websites. Right now, authors and publishers have dozens of active lawsuits against OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, and Meta. These companies have argued in court that their models learn patterns. Not copies. That no book is stored inside the weights. This paper says that is a lie. The books are still inside. And researchers just pulled them out.
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Christian Heiens 🏛
Christian Heiens 🏛@ChristianHeiens·
Even if the Right continues to lose politically, nature will do the job that conservatives could not. There is no world where Progressivism wins on a permanent basis.
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A Hill Worth Dying On
A Hill Worth Dying On@WorthDyingOn·
@Corvid91827364 @JesseHughes Regardless of what Democrats do, staying home is not “voting Democrat”. A major reason why we have a GOP that does nothing is because they take our vote for granted. We as voters must remind them that they need to earn our vote.
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Jesse Hughes ✝️🇺🇸
Jesse Hughes ✝️🇺🇸@JesseHughes·
If you vote blue this November and in 2028, you’ll be voting for: - Mass impeachments - The destruction of DHS - ICE agents imprisoned - Net negative migration reversed - The border reopened - Mass importation - Mass amnesty - The destruction of any opportunity for anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton to ever win power again You idiots will not be “teaching the GOP a lesson,” you’ll be facilitating the destruction of your own country The blood of Patriots will be on your hands
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Sébastian Zietara
Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
@calisto0606 @pbeyssac Et si le gamin l’utilise à votre insu ou avec votre autorisation ? De plus, certains parents achètent ce genre de smartphone pour leur enfants (irresponsables je sais).
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calisto06
calisto06@calisto0606·
@pbeyssac Non mais le simple fait de l'acheter doit suffire
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Sébastian Zietara@Sebo471·
@wendyp4545 @DavidD_Chapman Well Quorum is supposed to be there legally, so if no one suggested the absence of a quorum, the presiding officer cannot on his own call for the absence of a quorum.
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Wendy Patterson
Wendy Patterson@wendyp4545·
@DavidD_Chapman David, the Senate needs 51 members to do business. They only had 5 so they lied about it passing. They all just left.
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David D. Chapman
David D. Chapman@DavidD_Chapman·
Here is why what John Thune did last night was so awful. Normally during a government shutdown you don't negotiate with the minority. It's "open the government and then we'll talk." John Thune signed off on the Dem demands and sent it to the house. Essentially, putting a gun to the House Republicans head forcing them to pass a bad bill. If the house rejects it, it becomes the GOP DHS shutdown. John Thune has betrayed the President, Republicans, and everyone who voted for Trump in 2024.
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VMW@Vwms63·
@Deadelephants2 @shipwreckedcrew Someone asked to bypass the rules to pass the bill w/o debate. No one objected so it passed by unanimous consent. The same can’t be said for the Save America Act so debate must continue until we have 60 senators who agree to end debate. After that 51 votes are needed to pass.
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Shipwreckedcrew
Shipwreckedcrew@shipwreckedcrew·
Did the Senate Dems get a judicial warrant requirement? Did the Senate Dems get a policy change regarding the removal of masks? Did the Senate Dems get a policy change making certain "sensitive locations" off-limits for immigration enforcement? Save me the "Dems got everything they wanted from the shutdown" nonsense.
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Real Political Data
Real Political Data@RealPData·
Mike Johnson and fucking Tom Emmer have a historically small majority, and really no real majority when you factor in Massie and others. Yet somehow, the two have been able to get 99.9% of the agenda through while Thune has only capitulated to Democrats on most things.
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