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@IlliniProgrammr @Ross__Hendricks @anasalhajji Not everyone makes stuff. In fact the US makes less stuff than it ever has. And now the majority of people who all don't "make stuff" are paying 1/3 to half more for it than they did before the war.

@spermo93 @Ross__Hendricks @anasalhajji Yes. And people who make stuff for a living are killing it. People who work in offices, not so much.

The US never had any intention of making a deal All just a smoke screen to prepare for the next leg of escalation

@IlliniProgrammr @Ross__Hendricks @anasalhajji Overall investment in US manufacturing has went down and down since Trump came in.

@spermo93 @Ross__Hendricks @anasalhajji Our GDP is going up. We’re oil, fertilizer, and food producers. This is good for the country, particularly people who make stuff.

@WrubleB @cenkuygur @grok Oil prices are also set Internationally so the US will still be paying the same as everyone else because of it.

@spermo93 @cenkuygur I understand your concern. Look at the bigger picture of who loses if the strait of Hormuz is closed. @grok ?

I think we’re used to getting everything we want. But that’s not how the real world works. The Iranians have closed the Strait of Hormuz and can now use the world economy as leverage. I don’t think we understand the position we’re in. Israel has put us in an untenable place.

@WrubleB @cenkuygur @grok The US will be hit so bad from this they also cannot afford to keep it shut. This mentions nothing of US imported goods to worldwide fertiliser stocks. Theres also numerous other essential industrial chemicals and materials that pass through there. Who loses most doesnt matter.

@WrubleB @cenkuygur Its hard to quantify considering how much it effects the worldwide economy really. Everyone will have harsh effects to the point any one more bunch being effected more is almost irrelevant.

@spermo93 @cenkuygur Which countries are at the biggest loss due to the Strait of Hormuz closing?

@IlliniProgrammr @Ross__Hendricks @anasalhajji So what part about losing the ability to fertilise food and losing a massive chunk of 14% of your GDP coincides with US strategy? Those are 2 examples of a host of issues why Hormuz matters to the US. That is why Trump has been desperate for a ceasefire for WEEKS.

@spermo93 @Ross__Hendricks No, as @anasalhajji has repeatedly said, the closure of Hormuz actually appears to coincide with long-term US strategic interests.

@WrubleB @cenkuygur I honestly do not know. There's even rumours of over 100 missile bunkers. This could all escalate in so many ways it's really hard to predict anything.

@spermo93 @cenkuygur You don’t think our carriers & allies around the region couldn’t take the Strait? That’s not even adding in NATO who are being pressured by oil prices to engage.

@WrubleB @cenkuygur Which is one of the reasons American ships before the deadline weren't within 1000km of the shoreline. The US cannot take all these missile bunkers out. Iran has better missiles. The longer this goes on the worse it gets economically for EVERYONE including the US. Recoup $323bn?

@spermo93 @cenkuygur Second note.. Sending soldiers to the strait? Negative. They’d send drones and missiles, soldiers last. In a sense.. How many soldiers would go to the strait after seeing a blast field across the whole shore line? Asking for a friend.

@IlliniProgrammr @Ross__Hendricks The US does need to intervene to gain absolutely anything from this. Otherwise its an expensive military expedition that has lead to a worldwide economic that WILL include the US as I have given details about before. The US is also obsessed with Iran not having nuclear capability

@spermo93 @Ross__Hendricks Well, the “consequences” also happen to be an act of war on the Gulf States and energy consumers around the world— IE an embargo. The US is out of this and does not need to intervene. The question is what the world wants us to do, if anything.

@IlliniProgrammr @Ross__Hendricks The Wests politics are driven by Neoliberalist economic policies and ushering in more authoritarian social policies by the month. The banking system and its relationship with the Governments is now toxic. Thatcher/Reaganomics. I do not know we will have to wait and see.

@spermo93 @Ross__Hendricks I agree ground troops are as idiotic an escalation as starting the war. That said, Hormuz is closed. The west’s politics are mostly communist and it hates this war. That’s okay. But they’ll either have to choose between fuel riots and reopening Hormuz. So what’ll it be?

@IlliniProgrammr @Ross__Hendricks Yes I should have put UK/US. Regardless the outcome is the same. And Iran has 900k soldiers, police and militia. Probably upwards of 1m civilian potential combatants. How much money is the US willing to put into that? Already projected at $323bn. Ground troops not a good idea.

@spermo93 @Ross__Hendricks No, that was the British. US didn’t get involved until 1952-1953. Anyhow, Hormuz is closed. Hormuz is not getting un-closed except by military force. But that’s evil so your gas prices will be $10 instead.

@IlliniProgrammr @Ross__Hendricks It doesn't matter if the US didn't specifically break the ceasefire. Are you a child? The ceasefire was for everyone involved. The consequences if broken are for everyone involved.

@spermo93 @Ross__Hendricks US has nothing to do with the Strait’s current closure though. And arguably that’s sort of an act of war, as an embargo.

@IlliniProgrammr @Ross__Hendricks The US has been meddling with Irans oil and political landscape for well over 100 years dude. Recommend you do some research on that.

@spermo93 @Ross__Hendricks We’re not meddling. There’s a ceasefire. Iran has the strait closed because the US isn’t going to agree to a bunch of nonsense to reopen it. But that’s okay. Point is, Iran has the strait closed— even though they said they’d reopen it— not us.

@WrubleB @cenkuygur Along with the negative economic factors from imports/exports of now much more expensive to manufacture goods. Its a bad situation Trump has engineered for the world here.

@WrubleB @cenkuygur Iran does have over 900k soldiers, police and militia. Probably 1m+ in willing civilian comatants. The only way is through and through is expensive. Its already projected to cost $323bn, already spending over $100bn easy. Leaving with 0 deal and that investment...

@MVCPartner @cenkuygur The price of oil is set Internationally. 14% of US GDP is imported goods, which are now more expensive to manufacture AND ship. 1/3 of the worlds fertiliser passes through the Strait. Along with a host of other essential industrial chemicals and materials. This all effects the US

@cenkuygur You are an influencer, not a subject matter expert. The vast majority of Irans oil goes to China and India. Over the past few weeks the US production has ramped up to over 5 million barrels a day. Saudi and the UAE have expanded their overland output. The iRGC is cooked. Shut up.

@JimmyChonga454 @GeorgeC7531146 @cenkuygur Lol. The US did not win in Afghan.

@GeorgeC7531146 @cenkuygur We won in Afghanstan, we held them down for 20 years. Its not our fault if they chose to live like barbarians This war is a cake walk Problem is Trump is too restraint He's gotta let it rip

@JeremyLshow @cenkuygur LoL they can't clear the Strait in 24hrs you moron.

@cenkuygur Wrong. The ceasefire allowed us to clear the strait. Now there’s no mines. And Iran’s military has been destroyed by 50%+. We own that area now