It's wild that we are having an environmental panic about data centers — a carbon-free industrial facility that during ordinary operation consumes no natural resources besides electricity and water and emits no waste products besides heat.

@binarybits @zacharywefel Come on. This is sidestepping the main issue of scale and source. “Besides electricity and water” when it’s massive amounts of both. AI growth is inevitable and potentially great for humanity, but you’re doing it no favors by ignoring the gargantuan energy and resource strain.

@newanimeavi @zacharywefel ChatGPT says data centers use a total of ~5% of electricity in the US, and this could grow to ~10% by 2030. That does not seem that gargantuan to me.

@newanimeavi @zacharywefel It is putting some strain on our electric grid, but that's because our processes for upgrading the grid are dysfunctional, not because growing the grid by 2-3% a year is crazy.

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel That doesn't seem gargantuan to you?????

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel ~10% of the *entire* US electrical use, for what, 100,000 jobs total and no economic output? are you fucking insane?

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel Are you kidding? 10% is nearly half of *all current industrial usage in the country*

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel Give me 5% of your money if you think it is no big deal.

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel Seems like quite a bit for the revenge porn and plagerism machine

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel That’s incredibly gargantuan dude. Holy shit

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel You’re very stupid then and should leave the conversation

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel What does ChatGPT say about deez nuts?

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel well then you are just very, very stupid my man

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel That is an insane amount of electricity

@binarybits @newanimeavi @zacharywefel asking you to choose between the title of dumbest person alive or expert ragebaiter