@HankRenter @DrChillin7 @JeromeChukwuwem @C2Antiquity Thanks for finding it reading through the thread now.
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One thing I will commend about @C2Antiquity is that it is not easy to leave your vocation as a pastor to start again as an orthodox Christian.
You gave up your power to those that can strip yours at a moments notice. And that is the case for all orthodox creators. All that is needed is the confessor father (or in extreme cases the hierarch in charge) to apply the appropriate sanction.
Now I am not sure whether he is baptised rn. Apparently he sometimes watches the channel. But if you do see this Ben, I want to wish you good fortune on your path to illumination! There will be many that will deride you because of your content style (most of them being me😂😗) but only you will know if it is impacting you spiritually. Keep working, keep jugging and pray that God directs your steps!
And more importantly than anything in this needlessly long post, pray for me. It’s what keeps me alive!
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@ChrisCallsIt Its like the same 4 people that dislike him and start stuff up on X. One of them even blocked me when i was having a reasonable discussion with him because I didn't agree with his take on Fr. SDY comments. I was trying to get him to also answer why he dislikes him?
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Why’s everyone hating on FSDY. It’s so corny
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These people are as usual cowardly. Why have none of you called in when there were open calls orr chats with subject matter experts on western atonement theories like Fr. SDY or Fr. Joseph Lucas? @Alex_Ortodoxie has open debate challenge to you goobers.
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@HankRenter @DrChillin7 @JeromeChukwuwem @C2Antiquity And btw i get the nature of x comments so I'm not necessarily saying to post videos or screenshots, basically asking are you sure beyond a reasonable doubt that he is and have personally seen the stuff
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@HankRenter @DrChillin7 @JeromeChukwuwem @C2Antiquity I've been around for a while and even am in his discord. I havent seen SIIG post their stuff. Which is why i was asking if you had the info or proof stocked somewhere that he is a latinizer or is it a guilty by association thing. Which then becomes is he just friends or endorses.
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@Fruitbum1 @IkeLifeLike @spirit_filledx @Alex_Ortodoxie @OrthodoxEthos @C2Antiquity Tbh idk why besides audience size they are platforming Ryan who clearly by his own standard believes they are heretical as well. But maybe its just that they are worried about the momentum of young people going the Orthodox route.
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@BattleTier_ @IkeLifeLike @spirit_filledx @Alex_Ortodoxie @OrthodoxEthos @C2Antiquity True, if we're tightening the definition of prot yeah, I'm fine with that. A lot of prots would reject Ryan, and he also condemns a lot of prots lol. But they don't mind uniting to try to take down Orthodox. Goofy.
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I'll take this over that weird Anti Orthodox Conference the Prots tried to "debunk" Holy Orthodox with. @OrthodoxEthos @C2Antiquity @Alex_Ortodoxie
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@thaddeusthought I would much rather Utah be Orthodox than be Mormon any day of the week
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@Fruitbum1 @IkeLifeLike @spirit_filledx @Alex_Ortodoxie @OrthodoxEthos @C2Antiquity To be fair to Protestants Ryan isnt even remotely a Protestant. He is something else entirely foreign even to their beliefs. Hea a borderline free gracer
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@IkeLifeLike @spirit_filledx @Alex_Ortodoxie @OrthodoxEthos @C2Antiquity Your average catechumen could destroy 90% of what that panel talked about *if given a fair chance to talk*. But I've seen the way those prots like Ryan operate. They mute and talk over you and force you to answer loaded questions.
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@spirit_filledx @OrthodoxEthos @C2Antiquity @Alex_Ortodoxie If that was supposed to debunk Orthodox then that was a pitiful attempt at it. If anything, probably will make people more curious about it when they look up and find they got basic facts wrong
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@HankRenter @DrChillin7 @JeromeChukwuwem @C2Antiquity I heard someone else say that is it any proof of that? I only heard he had a latinizer as a discord mod and that was about it but I havent seen Jerome pushing tweets like them or YouTube videos spreading their beliefs.
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@DrChillin7 @JeromeChukwuwem @C2Antiquity SIIG is a latinizer, he doesn’t like cleave because he doesn’t believe latinizer distinctively
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@MyaView2 Why couldnt the Holy Spirit work through the ecumenical council? Groups are comprised of indivduals who can be guided by the Holy Spirit. It keeps going back to assuming your interpretation was right which means everyone else was pagan and not guided.Appreciate the convo GodBless
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@BattleTier_ Only God/Jesus/Holy Spirit can bind, like Jesus did for the Apostles. The Holy Spirit works in the individual lives that make up His church. How much is revealed to us is based on our individual spiritual state and walk with God.
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@MyaView2 Btw the only reason im saying "your view" is because people obviously disagree with you, i know from your perspective you feel you are guided by the Holy Spirit so your reading of it cant be wrong
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@MyaView2 So Mya, is your interpretation of scripture binding on everyone else and the only correct view?
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@fistofnicaea @Alex_Ortodoxie @reformedroom Very much true. I had one who was honest and said he hadn't and didnt want to burden his Priest with silly discussions like PSA over more important matters. But i was like if it's not that important why are you online calling out Priest and other Orthodox and spreading it 24/7?
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@BattleTier_ @Alex_Ortodoxie @reformedroom If asked about 20 Latinizers if their have spoken with their priest about PSA, etc. Only 2 said they had. Of those, 10 got emotional that I even asked. They know what their priests will say so they conceal their beliefs.
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@MyaView2 Basically dont you see this mindset is what spawns multiple churches in schism due to every single person behaving like mini-popes declaring their reading to be infallible and all others are to submit to their interpretations?
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@MyaView2 Everyone does do that even the church you said was pagan has liturgies that are entirely compromised of scripture. We are starting to get back to the original point, which is why your specific reading or interpretation is more correct than the Christians before you were born.
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@MyaView2 You are being slightly vague. Which of the reformers spawned the correct interpretation in your view? And which do you follow now? If u don't fully follow any of it then who was the first to announce your specific interpretations?
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@BattleTier_ No, God/Jesus/Holy Spirit have always worked through their own power. The Apostles did made great strides in planting the seeds for God/Jesus/Holy Spirit to use to make them grow into His church. That's what only the rest of us can do, plant seeds and let God do His work.
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@MyaView2 So the Holy Spirit wasnt guiding them into truth in your view. So how was he guiding your sect into truth through those years or the Holy Spirit only started to guide during the reformation?
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@BattleTier_ No, the proof is in the outcome of people wandering away from God/Jesus' word and choosing to follow men. That's why Jesus set up His church the way He did in the first place. Men corrupt everything that they are left in charge of. That's why God/Jesus said we needed a Savior.
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@MyaView2 So the Holy Spirit guides. Is it possible the Holy Spirit guided the church and its descendants the same way it should be guiding you now?
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@BattleTier_ We are the temple of God. Always have been. God knew men would mess up his message somehow and someway. That's why He did it this way in the first place.
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@MyaView2 So Christianity failed until who again? Muslims think Muhammad, Mormons think Joseph Smith, so who was the first Christian in history you can point to besides the apostles?Btw this started by explaining why they are quoted.If are interpretations contradict we can view historical
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@BattleTier_ For starters, the early Christians were fighting Docetists and Gnostics. The "eat my flesh" and "drink my blood" language was getting them accused of cannibalism, so then they started referring to the "real presence". Through the centuries it all went downhill based off...
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@MyaView2 The thing in question is peoples understanding of whats being said. The reason others are pointed to is to show your view or interpretation wasnt believed by the early Christians. Basically its saying if your view was apparent why has no one held it until a modern group.
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@_InTheFilth Manny's right. Orthos & Catholics hold up the words of early church philosophers higher than the word of God, and thereby, God/Jesus Himself.
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