Dee Odus

the number of non-technical founders trying to build their own app has exploded vibe coding opened the door and people walked straight through it which is great, until they hit the wall almost every founder who has approached me recently has the same story they started building, got excited, then got stuck and it wasnt the code that stopped them ai writes the code, that problem is solved what stopped them was the software engineering layer underneath it all the architecture decisions, the tooling, the environments, the integrations, the deployment, the cloud infrastructure, the submission process and so on thats not something an ai prompt fixes coding is one piece of software development founders are starting to realise that and now they're coming to me not to build for them, but to learn how to navigate it themselves because they want to vibe code like an engineer, and thats the most encouraging thing i've seen in years

vibe coding isn't as easy as twitter makes it look i speak to non-technical founders every week who are trying to build their own product almost every single one i've spoken to in the last 90 days has tried to vibe code most couldn't get past the basics some built a prototype, thats it coding is solved cursor, claude, windsurf etc they can write the code but the engineering stack around the code? thats still a nightmare for most founders web hooks, databases, cloud deployment, environments, security, push notifications, payments, performance... none of that is just "code" its decisions, architecture, debugging, knowing which tool does what and why vibe coding removes the syntax barrier it doesnt remove the software engineering barrier thats the gap most non-technical founders fall into can you resonate?

@LifeMathMoney @everton_dev @GaLAxyStARrSs If you were a company, would you: A: Hire 1 engineer to do jobs of 3, get same result? OR B: Hire 3 engineers to do the jobs of 9, effectively 3x the output and productivity and possibly revenue?

@everton_dev @GaLAxyStARrSs If it helps 1 enginner do the work of 4 engineers, it's effectively replaced 3 engineers even though it did not replace all of them

“Vibe coding is the future!! 😠AI is going to replace programmers!!!😤 Don’t learn how to code in 2025!! 🫨” OpenAI Job board:

@heyCharafeddine @tom_doerr Exactly this! Trying to fix on top of many attempts is adding more sloppy codes into the codebase. After few attempts best to roll back to the last staged commits and go again, sometimes with a new context window.

@tom_doerr Exactly. Fixing on top of broken code = stacking chaos. Rolling back is cleaner, faster, and way less painful. Sometimes deleting is the real debugging.

The biggest mistake in vibe coding is prompting the agent to fix errors instead of rolling back

AI-powered B2C apps are quietly printing money right now. Creators and founders are turning GPT wrappers into £10k/mo micro-businesses. If you’ve got an AI-powered idea, I’ll build it for you, native iOS, GPT-powered, launch-ready in 4 weeks. DM me “AI”.

@martin_casado Shhhhh! No, don’t tell them 😅

Contrary to the common narrative, I find that AI helps stronger, more experienced programmers a lot more then it does less experienced programmers. They have the context for what to ask about, how to evaluate the responses, and the tools to handle large code disruptions.

@tibo_maker It also forces me to check every single output before accepting the change, even though it slows me down, it’s the price I pay to ensure there won’t be any regression. Super annoying. Sometimes I have to tell it “do not change any other part of the code” 😅

Something I hate when using Cursor is, sometimes, it will randomly delete some of my code, for no reason Sometimes removing an entire feature 😱 I once pushed to production without being careful enough and realized a few hours later I had removed an entire feature ...

@tibo_maker happened to me a few time and I have decided to add and run test suites for each build, just to ensure it hasn’t broken/deleted a whole feature that was not even part of what we are currently working on!

@emilyzsh Great view!

the good life 🙂‍↕️

@nooriefyi @Suhail Love this analogy, and yes.

@Suhail kinda like judging a chef by their ability to cook a complex dish, not just chop carrots really fast

It seems to me that to test the real progress of AI, we should be giving it multi step tasks where the goal is to accomplish something real. More integration tests than unit testing. This would push the observation that its capability isn’t just a function of a narrow distribution of puzzle problems (good at Olympiad programming but can’t build a real app end to end)

@tom_doerr This is my experience as well. The larger the context gets the more error it produced. It’s still a hit and miss even with Claude sonnet

AI code editing is magic and implements most features on the first try. However, once the project grew, even simple requests are not implemented correctly and I'm not sure why. Is it too much context?

@BusMark_w_Nika @neilpatel Ah I see! Yeah makes sense. I am currently doing the opposite, learning all the cool marketing stuff 😅

@DeeOdus @neilpatel I already write a newsletter that serves as a blog about business & marketing stuff: businessandmarketing.substack.com But I want to have a new skill to create a web, where I will have all good things implemented "in-house". 😄 I used to have no-code website, but love challenges.

You’re wasting your time creating short form videos. We worked with 41 businesses to track what they spend on content (including employee hours) and what it generates in revenue. The big expense for content, for the companies that did it right, was the promotion, not the creation. Here is how much content costs and what it generates over time in revenue.

@BusMark_w_Nika @neilpatel Just curious which part of the infographic made you reach decision to learn to code? I thought I need to start blogging.

@neilpatel OK, now I know, I need to start learning to code.

@MrManderly @0xgaut Thank you! 🙏🏽

@0xgaut No case for life. Spending a fortune for the latest in cutting edge design and engineering to then cover it up with generic plastic doubling its width and hiding its beauty makes no sense.

there are three types of wealth: - macbook pro at coffee shop - iPhone without a case w/ apple care - iPhone without a case and no apple care

@ImSh4yy That’s me looking at 95% of mobile apps out there! 😅

Sometimes you gotta be delusional enough to look at a product built by an entire team and say "I can build a better one" and then actually do it.

@tibo_maker I am riding the AI/LLM trend, see you at the top Tibo 🚀

I am building for creators because I am convinced we're just at the start of the booming creator economy. It's a mega trend I want to ride. What about you, what mega trend are you riding?

Rafael Nadal. I used to see this Federer guy everywhere and wasn’t moved until one day I read in the sport section of the newspaper that he was beaten by a guy called Nadal. And then few months later I saw the same headline. That’s how I started following Tennis, it’s been 15 years now.

name the player who made you a tennis fan 👇

@catalinmpit Tests are required for complex implementation that must never break, essential for other complex logics but becomes redundant for the remaining parts of the code.

@JulieChangRE I have always wanted a big home until I heard a very wealthy person said it distanced their interaction with their children. The bigger the home the more likely your kids won’t hang around you and each other. Not for me :)

What stage of life am I in when I see houses like this And find them excessive and screams PIA to maintain and the antithesis of dream home And I really just want a smallish 1 story house in nature with loads of light

@dlwiest @esesci Every. Single. Time! Every time I have to tell it I am a capable dev pls don’t give me the full code all over again just give me what’s changed since the last code! Super annoying.

@esesci "That's great but could you just left align that popover instead of right aligning?" "You're absolutely right, left aligning the popover would improve visibility. [proceeds to generate a whole new version of the app with a completely different set of problems]"