Ryan

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Ryan

Ryan

@Falimzz

Wisconsin, USA Beigetreten Ekim 2011
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@ftkasunic @TruthScoreWeb @MattWalshBlog And yea, everyone makes mistakes. People also lie and cheat. But that’s exactly why the death penalty can’t be in the states hands. Killing innocents is just too much of a miscarriage of justice to allow. The price of saving innocents life in prison instead.
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FranklyOnTheRight🇺🇸@ftkasunic·
@Falimzz @TruthScoreWeb @MattWalshBlog Everyone makes mistakes. But how often are said mistakes... I've heard a lot, I heard all the time, I've heard hundreds, what is the actual instance rate of folks being wrongfully convicted and then put to death? Genuinely curious.
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Matt Walsh@MattWalshBlog·
The death penalty could absolutely save money and be a strong deterrent if the penalty was carried out shortly after conviction instead of keeping them on death row for decades while they file endless appeals. Executing someone is cheap and obviously more cost efficient than providing them meals and housing for their entire life. All you’re doing here is making an argument for carrying out the death penalty more quickly and efficiently. And I agree. You also aren’t addressing the number one reason for the death penalty, which has nothing to do with cost or even deterrence. The primary reason is justice. Justice is giving to a person what they are due. A man who brutally murders a young girl is due the ultimate penalty. We should execute child killers because execution is the most proper and right and just response to such a crime. Keeping such a person alive and forcing society to feed and house and clothe them until their natural death is unjust, improper. He deserves to die. Even you admit this. And so he should. It’s really that simple.
Fr Matthew P. Schneider, LC@FrMatthewLC

The question is not whether he deserves execution (he does), but whether we should execute him (we shouldn't). In the USA, executing people does not reduce crime, protect people (at least if incarcerated in more protective prisons), or save money compared to long term imprisonment. Executing people hardens us as a society to others. All systems of capital punishment there are systems to protect the executioner from the deed, showing the recognition of how such acts are bad for them as human beings, even when they agree in principle it's moral. In the US, the evidence & ethics are against having any executions.

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@ftkasunic @TruthScoreWeb @MattWalshBlog Do a little research. At least 200 known exonerations. Most before executed. Likely quite a few after being executed but people don’t tend to work those cases anymore.
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Matt Walsh@MattWalshBlog·
This is totally incoherent. It cannot be wrong to give someone what they deserve. I mean literally by definition it can’t be wrong. If it’s wrong, then they don’t deserve it. If they do deserve it, it’s not wrong. Pick one.
evan loves worf@esjesjesj

He *deserves* to die but killing people is wrong. It’s that simple. The point of being against the death penalty is for when the person deserves it. It’s easy to be against it for when someone doesn’t deserve it.

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@iamkristaleigh @Liberty_Vegan @ksorbs No, because I accept that there is a flawed system. The difference is, with life in prison there is at least the possibility that a wrongful conviction is found.
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KrissySnow@iamkristaleigh·
@Falimzz @Liberty_Vegan @ksorbs Do you feel the same way about prison in general? It is a terrible injustice when an innocent man is locked up for decades. Does that mean the state should NEVER lock anyone up for committing a crime even when the evidence is 100% clear that they committed the crime?
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Itto-Ahh-sooo@itto13bitty·
@TruthScoreWeb @MattWalshBlog So what do you have to say to this girl's parents? Sorry, no justice for you just in case the monster is actually innocent because it's happened in the past?
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@ftkasunic @TruthScoreWeb @MattWalshBlog What if it comes out later that the crime lab made a mistake with the DNA evidence? Eye witness testimony is terribly flawed. And cops do things like lie and plant evidence.
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FranklyOnTheRight🇺🇸@ftkasunic·
@TruthScoreWeb @MattWalshBlog Simple, if a crime is clear and obvious based on overwhelming evidence. Not circumstantial. HARD evidence. DNA, video, multiple eye witnesses. Good example would be the person who recently attempted to assas*nate trump at the correspondents dinner or pick your school shooter.
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@TruthScoreWeb @MattWalshBlog Not too mention misconduct by officers, perjury, incorrectly handled forensic evidence, etc which all lead to wrongful convictions
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Will-I-Am Legit@TruthScoreWeb·
Which killers should we execute? All killers that confess? All killers shown on video? All killers found guilty in a court of law? Because these things have been wrong in the past, false confessions and incorrect convictions are a thing. If we could know 100% for every case, it would be easy, but we can't. I personally don't trust the government enough to believe it can fairly and morally carry out executions...
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@MattWalshBlog I’ve never seen someone so happy with the state killing innocent people. It’s those “endless appeals” that have saved the lives of many wrongly convicted people.
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@iamkristaleigh @Liberty_Vegan @ksorbs He deserves to die. But the state shouldn’t be able to because that same power will be used to kill innocents. If you’re ok with the state killing Tanner Horner you’re ok with them killing innocent people because it will (and already has) happened.
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@iamkristaleigh @Liberty_Vegan @ksorbs By giving the state the ability to kill guilty people, you also give them the ability to kill innocent people since no system is perfect. That’s something that cannot be allowed to happen just because life without parole is too costly.
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@iamkristaleigh @Liberty_Vegan @ksorbs It’s not hypothetical. Multiple people have been exonerated after being sentenced to death. Cops do things like plant evidence, people lie, mistaken identification, etc.
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KrissySnow@iamkristaleigh·
@Falimzz @Liberty_Vegan @ksorbs The idea that we keep this monster alive because of some hypothetical other possible case where there could be an error is ridiculous. If that case comes along, make the argument against the death penalty in that case. In THIS case, the death penalty is the ONLY just outcome
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@iamkristaleigh @Liberty_Vegan @ksorbs Maybe answer the question. No, I’m not against him being killed. I’m against the state, who gets things wrong, having the ability to kill people.
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KrissySnow@iamkristaleigh·
@Liberty_Vegan @ksorbs I'm comfortable with Tanner Horner being executed. He is ON TAPE sexually assaulting and murdering a 7 year old girl. He stomped on her face and took nearly an hour to kill her. There is zero doubt about his guilt. Are you comfortable with him continuing to live?
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Sinful Seraph@sinfulseraph·
@DarkoStateNews @MattWalshBlog I would rather accidentally kill those 200 people than allow criminals to roam around without fear for their life Accidents will always happen People will always lie You seem determined to misunderstand human nature
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Matt Walsh@MattWalshBlog·
I am challenging any death penalty opponent — there are millions of them, allegedly — to step up to the plate right now and explain why this guy should not be executed. His guilt is established beyond any doubt whatsoever. His crime is utterly savage and heinous. Tell us why he doesn’t deserve to die. Go ahead.
Breaking911@Breaking911

BREAKING: Tanner Horner, the FedEx driver who kidnapped and murdered 7-year-old Athena Strand in Texas, has been sentenced to death.

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@MattWalshBlog He deserves to die. However, giving the state to power to kill people will ultimately lead to killing people who are innocent. That isn’t acceptable even though there are people like this guy who should be executed.
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@KellyClinger @Charlotte49er97 For engagement obviously. Sorry, paying off your cards doesn’t drop you score by 200 points. This is ridiculous
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Kelly@KellyClinger·
Can we start a movement to end the use of credit scores? I paid my credit cards off & my score dropped by over 200 points. Which means I have no debt but because my credit score is in the toilet I can’t qualify for anything. Credit scores are a joke. Oh & one of the credit cards I paid off kept increasing their interest rate. When I paid it off the interest rate was 44%. That should be ILLEGAL. Why is America so dang backwards??
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Based Sinatra@SinatraGeoffrey·
Negative. You talking about a family that's been in business for 60 to 80 years and were billionaires before coming into the game. It doesn't mean that they haven't profited because they have. Explain how Clinton Obama and Biden all became multi-millionaires after becoming president or while being president when they came in with absolutely nothing.
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Shipwreckedcrew@shipwreckedcrew·
Here's the difference. "Trump" is a family-owned business that has been a family-owned business for 60 (?) years. It had a multi-billion dollar valuation before Donald Trump took office. It is currently run by other family members. "Biden" had no family owned business, and it had no value before he took office. Yet family members made millions expressly trading access to influence, and concealed everything they did through cutouts and off-shore banking. Bill Clinton had pretty much ZERO personal financial wealth when he ran for President. Today he is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Same for Barack Obama. Yes, being President creates money-making opportunities. "Same as it ever was."
Melanie D'Arrigo@DarrigoMelanie

I’m old enough to remember when Fox News threw tantrums and Republicans called for endless hearings when Joe Biden received a $40,000 loan repayment check from his brother. Trump has made over $4 billion from various grifts and shady deals, from just his second term.

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