Magnolia Masters

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Magnolia Masters

Magnolia Masters

@MastersMagnolia

We are a open water focused Masters swim team in The Woodlands/Magnolia TX area.

Beigetreten Mayıs 2013
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Magnolia Masters
Magnolia Masters@MastersMagnolia·
@HankFrank A lot of triathletes advocate similar advice. It goes something like “my coach and I have found I do better if I don’t take any days off.” If you can’t get the training you need for peak performance in 5 or 6 days a week something is wrong with the program.
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Hank@HankFrank·
Recovery isn’t a rest day on the couch watching Netflix. Recovery is sleep, nutrition timing, easy zone 2 volume, and managing stress. If your “recovery” is just doing nothing, you’re leaving massive gains on the table.
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Howard Luks MD
Howard Luks MD@hjluks·
Cardiovascular and aerobic fitness are two very different animals.
Howard Luks MD@hjluks

Yesterday’s post about heart rate and base building triggered a number of responses from experienced runners saying, “But I run at 145+ HR, and I’m fine.” That reaction actually highlights how poorly understood the distinction between cardiovascular fitness and aerobic fitness still is, even among dedicated endurance athletes. Let's explore this a bit... Most runners run too fast on their slow days and too slow on their fast days. Cardiovascular fitness refers to the delivery system. It reflects how effectively the heart pumps, how well blood flow is distributed, and how efficiently oxygen is transported to working tissues. Aerobic fitness, however, is primarily about utilization. It reflects how well the muscles use the oxygen delivered through oxidative metabolism, including mitochondrial function, fat oxidation capacity, lactate handling, and overall metabolic efficiency. These are related systems, but they are not interchangeable, and one can be well developed without the other being optimized. It is entirely possible to have strong cardiovascular fitness and still operate with relatively high metabolic cost during steady-state efforts. This is particularly common among recreational runners and even among experienced non-elite endurance athletes who have spent years training at moderate intensities. They are durable, consistent, and capable, but their “easy” work often occurs at a higher fraction of their physiological capacity than they realize. When an athlete reports that their easy runs consistently sit in the mid-140s (above 75% of maxHR), it does not reflect poor fitness. In many cases, it reflects a well-trained cardiovascular system paired with a habitual training intensity that sits near or above the first lactate threshold. The effort may feel subjectively easy due to years of adaptation, but metabolically, it is not truly low-intensity work. The body relies more on glycolytic pathways than on oxidative metabolism, even during easy runs. This matters because the full development of the aerobic system is driven by sustained training below the first lactate threshold. While higher intensities absolutely stimulate mitochondrial biogenesis, the adaptations associated with metabolic efficiency—improved fat oxidation, expanded capillary density, lower lactate production at submaximal workloads, and reduced sympathetic strain—are most robust when a significant portion of training occurs at genuinely low intensities. In other words, intensity can build fitness, but extensive low-intensity volume refines efficiency. When most training time is spent at or above LT1, athletes often become very good at tolerating moderate metabolic stress rather than minimizing the cost of aerobic work. At elevated hr intensity, oxidative stress per session is higher, sympathetic activation remains elevated, and the recovery burden accumulates over time, even if the athlete feels subjectively comfortable. RPE can remain low while physiological strain remains moderate, particularly in experienced runners who have adapted psychologically to that level of effort. In my office, it is clear that there is also a practical clinical layer that becomes increasingly relevant in midlife. The cardiovascular system adapts relatively quickly to the stress of training. Connective tissues—tendons, fascia, cartilage, and bone—adapt much more slowly. When moderate-to-high metabolic load is layered onto repetitive impact before true aerobic efficiency and tissue resilience are established, the total recovery demand rises. This pattern is reflected in the training errors I see routinely in clinic: Achilles pain, plantar fasciitis, patellofemoral symptoms, and lateral hip or gluteal tendinopathy. They are usually mismatches between the distribution of training intensity and our recovery capacity. This changes with age... and it will catch up to you. None of this means that running at higher heart rates is inherently harmful, nor does it suggest that intensity should be avoided. Threshold work, tempo runs, and even high-heart-rate sessions are valuable tools. The issue is distribution. If most weekly mileage is performed at a moderate metabolic intensity, the athlete maintains cardiovascular fitness but sacrifices some metabolic flexibility and efficiency. Easy days are no longer truly low-cost, and recovery between harder sessions is less complete. What is often given up is range. An athlete with a well-developed aerobic base can run at a lower heart rate for the same pace, oxidize more fat, produce less lactate at submaximal intensities, and accumulate more total training volume with less physiological strain. Their easy runs are genuinely easy at a metabolic level, allowing higher-quality work when intensity is introduced. They are not just fit; they are efficient and durable. Base training, therefore, is not about avoiding effort or running unnecessarily slowly. It is about lowering the physiological cost of work so that training becomes more repeatable, recovery becomes more predictable, and long-term durability improves. The heart remains strong, performance is preserved, and the metabolic system becomes more efficient. For lifelong runners, especially after forty, efficiency and recovery capacity often become the true limiting factors rather than motivation or discipline.

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Sara Ella
Sara Ella@bellaLovesanim·
@SUGARTlSM I’ve seen a few vague posts too, but honestly it sounds like rumors more than confirmed news at this point. If it were truly that serious and widespread, major outlets would be reporting it.
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Semi 👑⚔️⁸⁹
Semi 👑⚔️⁸⁹@SUGARTlSM·
so i think apparently something's going on in the US. i mean something SERIOUS like even worse than usual. but the internet is suppressing it so hard that i can barely find anything about it. ive only seen vague posts that have bypassed the shadowban WHAT'S GOING ON
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Magnolia Masters@MastersMagnolia·
@SCStreet @stevemagness @GeorgesStPierre If you go by the English Channel swim, one of the older ultra-marathon swims, the male Channel crossing record is 6h45m and 7:25 for women which is about a 10% difference.
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Georges St-Pierre
Georges St-Pierre@GeorgesStPierre·
Men are generally stronger. However, in ultra-marathons, women have sometimes won outright, beating all competitors—including men, even at the elite level. That fascinates me. -Anyone know why?
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Stephen Seiler
Stephen Seiler@StephenSeiler·
OK, endurance athletes, what's the lowdown when it comes to your relationship to "wearables" and all the digital training diaries and monitoring technology? Addicted to, aggravated by, or somewhere in between? forms.gle/m7feYbdjcdzu7z…
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Magnolia Masters@MastersMagnolia·
@brian_drago_ If you’re struggling with 100s, try 25s or 50s. You could do 40x25 or 20x50. If you want to be sub 1:30 for 100s, swim the 50s in :42 on 1:05. 25s would be :19 on :40. Focus on your technique while trying to swim fast even as the fatigue builds.
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Brian Drago
Brian Drago@brian_drago_·
Having a gym close to you is worth paying the premium. A meeting cancelled today, so I drove 3 minutes to hammer out 10x100yds in the pool.
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Magnolia Masters@MastersMagnolia·
@TheLastNatufian @adamkjohnston That isn’t true. The colonies had elected councils and town hall meetings that were early forms of democratic practices as early as the 1750s.
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Herman Lewis
Herman Lewis@TheLastNatufian·
@adamkjohnston To be fair, Franklin and the colonists were subject to a king and didn’t know democracy. They wanted freedoms, were stuck in the middle, and looked all around for harmonious examples of what works including Native American cultures. Nothing wrong with that.
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Adam Johnston@adamkjohnston·
Less than 3 minutes into the Ken Burns documentary on the American Revolution, and we get: 1. White people are bad. 2. Native Americans had a centuries-old democracy before British colonists arrived. 3. Benjamin Franklin copied the Native American blueprint.
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Magnolia Masters@MastersMagnolia·
@brian_drago_ Brian - be consistent, try not to be more than two days out of the water in a row. Swim a lot of shorter, faster repeats with a lot of focus on the one aspect of your technique that will improve your stroke the most. At 1:30/100, you can get your core to engage a lot more.
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Hybrid Athlete Guy
Hybrid Athlete Guy@Hybridathlete·
Want to get better at running? Bike more. Seriously, if you’re a hybrid athlete or just new to running, biking is a great way to build endurance with minimal injury risk. It's also a great way to add additional aerobic volume for higher mileage runners without increasing chances of injury. Running is high impact. And most people new to running are not in good enough shape to keep running truly easy. Biking fixes that. Everyone can bike "easy." Biking is particuarly usefull for lifters just getting into running and anyone that is "heavy" (even if lean!). It's much easier to manage intensity and ensure you are getting the correct training effect.
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Magnolia Masters@MastersMagnolia·
@feelthebyrn1 You’re getting at the biggest reason triathletes struggle to improve in the swim - athletes are under-recovered going into the swim. Using gear won’t fix the issue. It just papers it over.
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Gordo Byrn
Gordo Byrn@feelthebyrn1·
Gear & Flotation I'm in favor of every intervention that results in swimming more often. +++ Something I noticed with myself (and others) when I was inefficient in the water... swimming was making me so tired, I would avoid the pool because I didn't want to be tired. This habit creates a self-sustaining circle... don't swim to reduce overall fatigue... don't improve efficiency because not swimming To break the cycle, I had to slow down, relax and use flotation. I created the swim game (10 weeks of 3 swims a week) to break this pattern. Three years later, each of those swims is the equivalent of a warm-up. Big Picture: this is an example of "lowering the bar" leading to better outcomes and more work being done. +++ The other issue I have - when I swim easy, I am a sinker. My body sits low in the water. This means my slower paces are not as easy as one would expect by looking at velocity. By using flotation, I can avoid some of the sinking. This lets me recover while moving (in squad) and gives me a comfortable easy gear for warm-up and solo swimming. When I use a pull buoy, especially the big/wide ones, I start swimming flat with a swing recovery. This makes me less efficient (think of a barge moving through the water). By switching to shorts, I have been able to lengthen my stroke and get more rotation. +++ That said, if we use a lot of flotation and we are training for a non-wetsuit swim then we need "no flotation" key workouts in the summer => use 50 meter pools and open water. Amateur triathlon swimming is not about pace. It is about reducing the energetic cost of the swim. Most swim programs ignore this reality.
Iñaki de la Parra@inaki_delaparra

When do you recommend using flotation pants? I’ve noticed mixed results when comparing them to a big buoy. I like the pants especially when the legs are tired or during “over-pace” work at higher tempos or thresholds, swimming with faster athletes leading the lane. The buoy more for real strength or rate work, or either true full recovery on the legs side of things. That said, in recent months I’ve tried to stay away from them to reinforce my overall swim mechanics, rate and body position. Please keep sharing the Masters sets, they’ve really helped me stay consistent, keep improving my swimming, and make sessions more engaging both for me and for our local crew. 🤙🔥🏁

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Magnolia Masters@MastersMagnolia·
@JasonFitz1 You can, but it would be fairly narrow. For instance, I want to do them for fun. When is “just for fun” just a cover for an exercise addiction? So you can have a goal outside of performance/health but when you are outside those goals it’s not very far away from a red flag.
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Jason Fitzgerald
Jason Fitzgerald@JasonFitz1·
What's your opinion on running two marathons within 3-5 weeks? What green/red flags do you look for?
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Nada Botski
Nada Botski@NadaBotski3·
@C_3C_3 In the words of Abraham Lincoln, "Let him enforce it".
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C3@C_3C_3·
A judge named Sparkle Sooknanan born in Trinidad and Tobago has overruled the duly elected President of the United States. Think about that. We have a major problem with the Judicial Branch.
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Magnolia Masters@MastersMagnolia·
@LueElizondo What do you see as a bigger threat to the US - NHI or a bureaucracy and government that feels it’s acceptable to be unaccountable to the people?
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Lue Elizondo
Lue Elizondo@LueElizondo·
I’m backstage here at one of my favorite cities, Chicago, and got a bit of time to take any questions! And GO!
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Joey Mannarino
Joey Mannarino@JoeyMannarino·
@B3nL1pman Russia fought for territory. They lost tons of soldiers. They should not just walk away.
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Joey Mannarino@JoeyMannarino·
Russia wants peace. The USA wants peace. Ukraine does not want peace. Europe does not want peace. Ask yourself why.
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Alex Hutchinson
Alex Hutchinson@sweatscience·
More research suggesting being fast vs slow twitch should affect how you train. How do you tell which you are? - muscle biopsy - proton MR scan - jump test: >20" (men) or 14" (women) suggests fast-twitch - reps at 80% 1RM: >10 = fast, <9 = slow - race! outsideonline.com/health/trainin…
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Magnolia Masters@MastersMagnolia·
@StrengthbyMike @sweatscience You may not agree but it has a big impact on how you need to train an athlete. I coach a lot of pro triathletes and you can tell the difference between the athletes who are more “fast twitch” dominant versus “slow twitch.”
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Strength By Fitness
Strength By Fitness@StrengthbyMike·
I don't agree that whatever muscle fiber is your dominant should affect how you train. Compete sure, if you want to compete professionally in sports at all. But how you train should actually be based on what you need. Ie what are your goals and what health outcomes are you looking for. And the biggest reward for both health and fitness outcomes is training what you are worst at. So Contrary to the conclusion that you should train according to your dominant muscle fibers , do the opposite. Do you mostly have slow fibers, lift bigger weights and maximise your potential for fast twitch fibers. Are you super explosive and strong, do more cardio stuff 👊👊.
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Magnolia Masters@MastersMagnolia·
@timkettenring If you look at the training through a very narrow prism, it’s sort of true.
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Tim Kettenring
Tim Kettenring@timkettenring·
Idk who needs to hear this but it’s literally impossible to improve aerobic capacity through anaerobic means.
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