@Nonyplayz1 @fumitokihime Such as that image of him playing Arsenal being from the past, the doc being posted by his parents, and many hospitals allowing patients to use devices with heavily restricted internet?
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TheYellowHypergiant
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@OneHypergiant @fumitokihime there is so much evidence AGAINST him being hospitalized
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When Zeal crops screenshots, lies, changes his story, and admits to multiple things Ren has said he's done: He's autistic he doesn't know what he's doing wrong! He's trying so hard to prove himself while everyone has abandoned him!! 🥺
When Ren makes mistakes:
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@Nonyplayz1 @fumitokihime Ren had many months to make a doc without typos, Zeal had a week while being hospitalized. Why is it only okay if Ren does it?
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@OneHypergiant @fumitokihime "bunch of" and theres one example that easily could have been a typo
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@InTeaSoul @DollzHousee Like saying that Zeal started kissing her unprompted despite her asking Zeal to kiss her.
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@InTeaSoul @DollzHousee I hope someone tells him about Ren cutting some information from her own doc
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Gianni can draw his own conclusions about the situation but i think him apologizing to zerum and kat is dumb im sorry
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@Melkshakeboi @FangedMaiden_ As Zeal says, Ren was "smiling, laughing, and giggling when [they] weren’t kissing" and was actively participating in the activities instead of doing nothing or saying "no."
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@OneHypergiant @FangedMaiden_ Consent to kiss is not consent to push further.
Until Zeal proves he had consent to go further, the boat is very much in the water.
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Dawg. If Zeal did not know Ren's boundaries, then he shouldn't have done anythingin the first place. And, again, Ren said she was going through a fawn adrenaline response.
Maiden@FangedMaiden_
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@AbyssticMyst @SchleepyIsTired Zeal did not use force or threats or anything similar to get her to say yes. Therefore, it was not coercion. It's not Zeal's fault if she actually lied to his face without him knowing.
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@SchleepyIsTired I've read the documents.
There was never any consent to begin with, she said no several times. She was coerced into doing it as she didn't want to make Zeal feel bad.
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Oh wow Zeal released a document defending himself, let's just ignore the over 200 page document released by Ren with mountains of evidence! Let's also ignore the other people who have came forward about their mistreatment by Zeal! Yeah!
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@Nonyplayz1 @fumitokihime Why is it always the exact same single thing that was left out? Meanwhile, Ren's doc has a bunch of inconsistencies but no one cares. For example:
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@DanielD98697106 @fumitokihime I'm aware of Stockholm syndrome, but that tends to occur after persistent abuse or lengthy kidnappings, not after a single encounter. And Zeal likely wasn't even aware how Ren thought of him since she kept saying it was all fine instead of telling him to back off.
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@OneHypergiant @fumitokihime stalk home sydrum
cmon man not every victum can let go of their abuser easily plus sometimes like zeal its very hard to let go of them and try to please them
also nah didn't read but i already got the whole situation by just youtube videos explaining it
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@FangedMaiden_ He didn't start until after she stopped crying and she asked to kiss, at which point Zeal may have thought she was okay.
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@OneHypergiant Again. If he did not know her boundaries, if he saw that she was not in a good mental state at the moment, then he shouldn't have tried to do anything with her.
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@TopicalLazadunk @mizer1on I'm suspicious of Ren's statements and accusations but even I can say her looks have no relevance to this situation at all.
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no one gaf about pressure ren is just an unstable, lying twat with a dry cooch and a victim complex
DizzyFizz🥤@SwaggerSoda
Zeal defenders: yeah but he made Pressure so he’s innocent
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@DanielD98697106 @fumitokihime Did you read her doc? Also, victims don't usually talk about how much they enjoyed the thing that traumatized them and agree to do the exact same thing that traumatized them the following day and even prepare for it with condoms and lube.
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@OneHypergiant @fumitokihime yeah sure mate like i'd belive that
plus victims can eb scared of losing their abuser like god dude
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@Nonyplayz1 @fumitokihime Thanks, I based it off OP's technique!
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@OneHypergiant @fumitokihime the technique youre using of just making shit up lowkey go hard
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@DanielD98697106 @fumitokihime Some context was omitted from Ren's document, and some of her notes in her doc directly contradict her screenshots. She also seems to turn innocent messages into something sinister and claim that her green flags and approvals were all fawning and not real.
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@OneHypergiant @fumitokihime sense when did that happen my man
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@hyperbunny_ @Loppyhop It would be coercion if you could reasonably conclude that you could be in danger if your partner is disappointed.
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@OneHypergiant @Loppyhop i fear anything other than an enthusiastic yes isn't a yes. if you consent because you think your partner is disappointed, that's coercion.
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As an autistic girl: OH MY GOD???
PLEASE DO NOT SPREAD THE NOTION AROUND THAT AUTSTIC PEOPLE CANT COMPREHEND CONSENT? this is such harmful misinformation! Yes you might struggle to pick up social cues, but that NEVER extends to BASIC. CONSENT. if you hear no, IT'S NO.
Urbanshade@UrbanshadeRblx
docs.google.com/document/d/1_6… Additional Context and Clarification Regarding Recent Allegations
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@MrSardough37216 @yesokmori It would be a different situation if she was crying during the encounter instead of before.
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@OneHypergiant @yesokmori was she or was she not crying before the interaction
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zeal cuts out the part where ren explains consent to him!
astridstar (semi-active) ⚙@sonadowyuri
i find it concerning how this conversation between ren and zeal was brushed over, where ren literally has to explain the concept of consent to zeal. "you need to ask me "can I?"" "you ripped everything off and did things without asking"
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@eimibun It’s almost like different hospitals have different rules that may differ based on the patient’s current state…
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Also he’s lying, my mom is a nurse that works in a psychiatric unit and deals with suicidal patients almost everyday
When they receive visitors, for the patients’ safety they forbid you from giving them any sort of electronics or any item in general to avoid harming theirselves
Urbanshade@UrbanshadeRblx
with further developments. My family will be posting this document and reply on my behalf. During my stay, my mom has been visiting me, letting me borrow a laptop to write whilst offline, and reading aloud the messages of people who have messaged her.
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