@SamuelMelton5 @Salt_n_Smoke He died for his cause. Also that is false. He owned a farm and a hardware store.
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@artMISSIONARY @Salt_n_Smoke He was a conman.
Snakoil salesman.
Luckily most people realize this.
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Dear LDS- Quit telling everyone that Joseph is a true prophet and that the church is true. It’s very deceiving and not truthful. Do your missionaries let the innocent people know the truth? Of course not.
LDS are faced with a hard fact, Either Joseph Smith is a liar, or the church is completely wrong right now.
- Keep this simplified picture of facts showing Joseph lied, publicly, in a sermon/address to his own church members, then the current church admitting he actually did have plural marriages!
Is that how a Christian filled with the Holy Spirit should act? Lying to his own church?
Links are in the comments.
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@summer_lynn421 @ChristandGuitar Actually the Book of Isaiah predates the Book of Mormon.
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@artMISSIONARY @ChristandGuitar Here’s the thing there was no book of Isaiah at the time the Lehi left Jerusalem so the only the way the book of Isaiah makes it into the BOM is by Jospeh Smith putting it there. The BOM quotes parts of Isaiah that post date Lehi’s departure by decades.
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The Book of Mormon claims to be ancient scripture — but it's riddled with problems.
The original 1830 edition had thousands of grammatical errors and historical issues. Many were quietly fixed over time. Its theology also shifted under Joseph Smith — from more Trinitarian-leaning to pluralistic gods.
It directly copies large sections of the King James Bible—including the KJV's own 1769 translation errors. Roughly 30% of Isaiah appears in the BOM — this is plagiarism by any modern standard.
Joseph Smith called it "the most correct book on earth." How can that be with so many obvious issues?
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@5AndDimeVA @Salt_n_Smoke You are using Latin characters right now.
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Using the translations of Smith papyri rediscovered in 1966, prove your assertion. I’ll save you some time, you can’t. Because it was an Egyptian Isis God funerary rite nothing to do with the book of Abram or the pearl of great price. Nothing in fact, the document date 1500 years after Abraham.
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@spookysecretguy @Truth_matters20 administration is the not the same as clergy.
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@Matthew56193629 @DaBearsGoBlue13 @Salt_n_Smoke Matthew Thomason. I mean this with love. I am convinced that you have a serious mental illness. I hope you can get help.
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@summer_lynn421 @True_Patriot_1x @Salt_n_Smoke His wife Emma said something along the lines of, "Joseph doesn't have a complete sentence in him.".
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@True_Patriot_1x @artMISSIONARY @Salt_n_Smoke He had read the apocrypha. Most people aren’t even aware of its existence. How do I know he had read it? D&C 91. Not the uneducated farm boy they want you to think he was.
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@teak421 @Salt_n_Smoke He absolutely did not. That is false.
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@artMISSIONARY @Salt_n_Smoke He cheated on his wife with 30 other women.
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Mormons: we reject creeds and confessions.
Also Mormons:
Guy Incognito@GuyInco15542744
@JeanDAr07491107 @residentreformr If you think the Merciful Lord is going to reject people sincerely seeking Him because they don’t accept manmade creeds written centuries after He rose then you don’t know Jesus
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@artMISSIONARY @EFAY1EIGHT @Salt_n_Smoke Hitler died for what he believed. Untold crooks did, too!
Just heard a story about a thief who believed he won’t get caught. He got caught.
How can that be a governing factor for truth ! Good grief, are you for real ? Do better. Jo Smith was a conman and false prophet. PERIOD!
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@TrevorSAndersen @EFAY1EIGHT @Salt_n_Smoke Which only shows that the Masons who did it were murders.
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No he died because he used his political power to destroy a newspaper that was about to tell the truth about his polygamy, threatened martial law, was charged with treason, fled the state and then returned, turned himself in and died in a shootout while doing a Masonic distress signal.
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@Thatbrian The Israelites were called to burn a giant bull. That didn't help anyone. They simply needed to learn how to sacrifice.
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@artMISSIONARY @Salt_n_Smoke I am reading one of the many languages written with Latin characters, but that has nothing to do with the nonexistent "reformed Egyptian" that Joe the con artist made up. Are you actually this stupid, or just trolling?
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@JDStokes79 @Salt_n_Smoke YOU ARE READING REFORMED LATIN RIGHT NOW!
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@artMISSIONARY @Salt_n_Smoke Repeating your claim that he "told the truth" over and over won't change reality: he was a con artist long before he decided to run a religion con. He was a liar, whether we're talking about his magic wheat or his "reformed Egyptian" golden plates that mysteriously disappeared.
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The LDS church posted its first net loss in membership in 2025. The church is consolidating wards/stakes and selling off real estate to developers. Anecdotally, friends of ours who are LDS-members say our former ward is “unrecognizable” anymore.
A believing member writes a thoughtful book exploring why this is happening and some of your “most faithful” view it as a threat and maintain that everyone else is just wrong.
PSA to all the sane Mormons: Your zealots are driving everyone away.
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@LibertyEthics The Trinity is not found in the Bible. People have falsely assumed that "I and my Father are one" to means "My Father and I are one and the same". Keep in mind Jesus also told the Apostles to be one.
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My thing on this has nothing to do with hating on Mormons. It's just total bafflement at the argument that they're Christians. They're just... not. They're not even monotheists! Their god is not the God that created the universe. They deny the Trinity. I could go on. Just, stop.
Mike Winger@MikeWingerii
Mormons are often very personally offended when Christians say that Mormonism isn’t Christian. This is dumb. Joseph Smith’s first “encounter” with God involves God telling Smith that every creed Christians profess is an abomination to God. Every creed. That includes the Nicene Creed. They reject who God is, who Jesus is, the nature of salvation, the nature of exaltation, the clear teaching of Scripture, etc.. Mormonism rejects the very core of the Christian faith in all its essentials. Joseph Smith knew this but nowadays they are playing mind games with their own people and with real Christians. Either THEY are Christians or WE are. It’s one or the other. Not both. When asked “Will all be damned but Mormons?” Smith replied, “Yes, and a great portion of them unless they repent and work righteousness” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 119) The Doctrine and Covenants (1:30) leaves no doubt to the Mormon teaching of exclusivity when it says the LDS Church is “the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased ….” Brigham Young, second only to Joseph Smith in Mormonism said… “Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity” (Journal of Discourses 10:230). “The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God” (Journal of Discourses 8:171). I could easily give you pages of them saying they are the only true Christians and how we are all ignorant beasts and our doctrines are wrong. They knew at the time they had a different God, gospel, Scripture, and system of belief. But now it has become expedient to pretend otherwise while still preaching all those false and unchristian things. Mormons, your leaders are gaslighting you and you are gaslighting us. You aren’t Christian but we want you to be. Flee from Mormonism. Flee from Joseph Smith.
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@EFAY1EIGHT @Salt_n_Smoke He died for what he believed. That isn't the mark of someone out for their best interest.
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@artMISSIONARY @Salt_n_Smoke Joseph Smith was a Fraud and Conman. The "Truth" was not in him.
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@TonyG_in_LV @Salt_n_Smoke relying on man is literally every single preacher.
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@artMISSIONARY @Salt_n_Smoke Well it’s good thing we read the word of God and not rely man.
Psalm 146:3-5
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@artMISSIONARY @DavoustBaldPate So the trinity came before the Bible, thanks for admitting that!
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Mormons: We are Christians!
Christians: You affirm the Nicene Creed?
M: No. Absolutely not.
C: The Trinity?
M: No way.
C: Jesus was always God, at least.
M: No, he was born of Heavenly Parents.
C: Jesus is born of a virgin at least.
M: No. God the father came down to ‘father’ Jesus the old fashioned way.
C: Do you celebrate the Eucharist?
M: With water.
C: Does your Church have apostolic succession?
M: Oh for use, in 1839 John the Baptist and St Peter, Paul and John appeared to Joseph Smith and gave him the Aaronic and Melchezidich priesthood.
C:…what? Do you adhere to any of the ecumenical councils?
M: No. Absolutely nothing of Christ’s Church existed after the Great Apostasy.
C: The what? When did that happen?
M: We don’t know. At some point.
C: But God created the universe, at least?
M: No. God reorganized existing matter. Matter is eternal and so is our intelligence which is the same as god the fathers’.
C:…
M: And we have temples where you go to get an endowment—
C: Mormons are not Christians.
M: Yes we are! It says so on the meeting house!
C: Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken!
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@JDStokes79 @Salt_n_Smoke Known buy liars to lie? He told the truth.
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