Doug Lay
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Doug Lay
@douglay
Web geek since 1994. It's too late to stop now. Tech, privacy law, music, Baltimore sports.
Baltimore Beigetreten Nisan 2007
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@JimHunterTalks @Orioles @Dodgers @MLB Remember it well. Always a fan of Fernando, reminded me of the great Mike Cuellar. Warriors, old school , shutouts,complete games, gave their teams a chance almost every time. #RIP
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On July 6, 2916 the @Orioles played the @Dodgers in LA. @Jim22Palmer and I walked out of the broadcast booth and ran into Fernando Valenzuela. I got lucky, 2 of the greatest pitchers ever in @MLB in the same photo in the hallway. Fernando was very kind

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@NewfangledDad Hahahaha good luck with that. A professor lost her job and was denounced as undeniably Islamophobic. If she did nothing wrong then wrong was clearly done to her.
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@mattyglesias There was very little popular art about the 1918 pandemic. Apparently no one wants to relive that stuff.
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11th Circuit to Trump: You're Not Special
emptywheel.net/2022/12/01/11t…
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@KenMathis @joshtpm @NateSilver538 You're arguing with a straw man at this point. I never said anything about Twitter retaining their advertisers. In fact I flagged monetization as a big problem for them.
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@douglay @joshtpm @NateSilver538 System doesn't have to be compromised to have effect. Increased hack threat alone is drives away advertisers. I KEEP pointing this out to you, but it's just one more thing you ignore to repeat you mantra.
Potential hacks contribute to Twitter unable to moderate or make money.
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Prediction markets estimate only a 20% chance of a major Twitter outage in 2022, which is in pretty stark contrast to much of the tech press which has treated one as near inevitable. astralcodexten.substack.com/p/mantic-monda…
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@Eodyne1 @danobroin @PikeBot You’re right, but US Attorney Carmen Ortiz issued a press release bragging about the possible 35-year sentence. Turned out to be quite the career-limiting move for her, as her political ambitions ground to a halt after this case. No winners.
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He was not sentenced to 35 years. He was not sentenced at all. He turned down a plea deal for six months of jail time and then killed himself before trial could commence.
Youssef Ibrahim Yazbek 🇱🇧 ☭@RorschachProdu1
Aaron Swartz would have been 36 today. Aaron committed suicide after being sentenced to 35 years in prison by US authorities for transferring and sharing scientific articles from JSTOR.
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@KenMathis @joshtpm @NateSilver538 Twitter’s authentication system(s) *could* be compromised. I don’t believe they have been, or will be on a large scale.
Twitter’s big risks are around content moderation and making money. The Eli Lilly fiasco was due to an Ill-thought-out attempt to raise revenue.
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@douglay @joshtpm @NateSilver538 You're nonresponsive. Keep repeating same point already explicitly denied by OP while just ignoring key points against you. For example👇
Point: Impersonating can be done by hacks. That's a direct counter to your claim security only involves govs seeing DMs, so is immaterial.

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@KenMathis @joshtpm @NateSilver538 I repeat my point because you seem to be confused about what I am saying. If you think it's "Musk Good" then you are mistaken.
I do not believe Twitter will crash *or performance will significantly deteriorate.*
Impersonation in this case was done through social engineering.
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@douglay @joshtpm @NateSilver538 What?!? Impersonation can be done socially or technically. Guaranteed hackers are looking to do so.
Why do you keep repeating your mantra that the site won't crash. Orig point you replied to was not even about a crash. It specifically said "a major outage isn't really the issue"
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@KenMathis @joshtpm @NateSilver538 Impersonation is a social-layer problem, closer to a content moderation issue than an infrastructure issue. Also, I’m not a fan of Musk’s firings. They seem vindictive and cruel. But I believe the infrastructure layer of the site will not crash or permanently deteriorate.
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@douglay @joshtpm @NateSilver538 "Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?"
Can't defend Musk's firings by ignoring major consequences of those firings. Also security/reliability are a problem. Eli Lilly quit because someone impersonated them. Twitter is under increased hacker threat & advertisers know it
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@KenMathis @joshtpm @NateSilver538 Never said Twitter won’t have problems. The issues around content moderation and monetization are huge challenges, and I suspect Musk underestimates these challenges.
I predict Twitter will not have major, long-lasting problems with *site reliability*.
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@douglay @joshtpm @NateSilver538 You're not even trying to provide a counter argument. You just keeps repeating your *hope* that all mentioned problems aren't problems. Reality is that they are already huge problems. 50% of Twitter's major advertisers have stopped buying ads due to lack of confidence in the site
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@_will_archer @KenMathis @joshtpm @NateSilver538 I hear you and I've been in similar situations. I think Twitter's code stack is probably better documented and more thoughtfully architected than most, though. The app has run very well in recent years for the most part. The Fail Whale a distant memory.
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@KenMathis @douglay @joshtpm @NateSilver538 No reliable docs. (Plenty of stale partial docs though! The answers are there, but… where?)
Many of the original architects had moved on.
You had to know a guy. God help you if that guy got fired rudely and isn’t interested in hopping on a call on thanksgiving.
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@SeanTrende Is this a new thing since the summer? I was in NYC in April and again in July—Tribeca, Soho, Greenwich Village, Chelsea, Chinatown, also Midtown/Columbus Circle and Central Park, and the only place I noticed a weed smell was—shocker—Washington Square Park.
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@_will_archer @KenMathis @joshtpm @NateSilver538 Media site, millions of pvs/hr during spikes. And plenty of custom Web apps with SLAs. Nothing nearly as complex as Twitter. But I'll stand by my prediction for now.
It's sad, but the better the Twitter SREs did their jobs, the easier for Musk to dump them and take their work.
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@douglay @KenMathis @joshtpm @NateSilver538 Doug I must ask you what’s the largest website you have been an on call engineer for?
Cause I just got off my third of four on call shifts for Black Friday week and I don’t think a single person on our team would agree with your analysis.
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@HeerJeet “The Rap Attitude”, Newsweek magazine, 1990. Such trash that Newsweek is apparently keeping it out of the online archives, but here’s a rebuttal from the LA Times:
latimes.com/archives/la-xp…
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@douglay @joshtpm @NateSilver538 You haven't come up solution to increased hacker threat & that's just one example. Again, your only rebuttal is to just claim no problem to own admitted problem.
Btw Twitter hiring will also be problematic due to hell work environment, near bankruptcy, mass layoffs...
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@KenMathis @joshtpm @NateSilver538 I don’t think keeping the site infrastructure running is going to be much of a problem. Let’s just leave it at that. If I’m wrong we will know soon enough because now, after firing a bunch of people, is a more risky time.
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@douglay @joshtpm @NateSilver538 This conversation👇
You: Yes. There are problems
Me: That's what I'm saying. There are problems
You: I don't think there are problems
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You admitted problems with:
* Content moderation
* Monetization
* Hackers
Your solutions:
* Shift blame
* Hire people after the fact
🤦♂️🤦♂️
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