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@Fade_Coms JJK is definitely not a modern-day Dragon Ball, that’s the problem with a lot of DB fans tending to look at things on a surface level.

What people don't understand is that GOJO VS SUKUNA A MANGA ONLY FIGHT atm jumped so high in mainstream media that basketball players and Usher referenced it. Dog they had an animated PV for their sequel manga, JJK is easily there

@Jamie4298164821 @SigmaGodku Still, I'm talking about the 2015 version of the anime and there are other scenes, not just that one.

@forwardintodawn @SigmaGodku The remastered version will be closer to Toriyama's vision, so likely, more similar to the movie, where it's Beerus that catches him.

We LOVE casual Vegeta and Goku

@Jamie4298164821 @SigmaGodku Well, we're talking about the anime not the movie, and I don't see why not, from the trailers the climax doesn't look any different.

@forwardintodawn @SigmaGodku And that scene wasn't even part of the original version in BoG and likely won't be in the remastered version. He insults him in both versions. But it's nothing serious.

@Jamie4298164821 @SigmaGodku No, it’s more friendly and supportive, and it better shows Vegeta’s newfound respect for Goku, particularly after the Buu Saga. For example, when he catches Goku as he’s falling from the atmosphere after his fight with Beerus it’s not perfect, but it’s much better than the manga.

@forwardintodawn @SigmaGodku That's how their interractions are in both versions. 😆

@Paul_Nevarez @JUSTcatmeme It’s crazy the first thing he thought was to eat her ass

@JUSTcatmeme Not eating ass. Sorry but that's a new age white guy thing to do....but I'd be piledriving this chick into the kitchen

Could you imagine clocking in a a corporate GIANT to eat her ass on the clock?

@DB_Simplemente It looks like Toriyama kept the youthful throughout the manga.

During the Majin Buu Saga, Gohan was only a 16-year-old teenager, but as the story progressed, the character went through subtle design changes that gradually gave him a much more mature appearance, far removed from the youthful look he had at the beginning.

@martin_miller07 @DBPerfectShots Because of poor writing and Toei’s direction, in this case the DBS manga is much better. In the manga, he wasn’t able to do anything against Black and was relegated to a support role, healing the cast whenever they were injured.

@DBPerfectShots I still have no idea how trunks could keep up with those 'gods' with regular super saiyan. Beerus needs to fight a bit serious against super saiyan god goku and he knocked out SSJ3 goku with one tap on the back on goku's neck. This doesn't make any sense at all

Goku & Trunks vs. Goku Black & Zamas — Dragon Ball Super (Episode 57)

@EpikEpikson I notice the people who are particularly defending it and trying to downplay it are DB gaming YouTubers.

Why are people trying to defend the decision of skipping the two biggest DBS anime arcs into Moro arc being adapted, while already having done the first 3 arcs (two of which have been adapted twice before) It's such a weird decision even if DBS anime gets continued after Moro

@Rhymestyle @ZehalZ That "nobody" must only be you, because plenty of people would prefer them to fully remake all of Super and Super needs a remake. Not one arc looks good from start to finish and its story sucks, your new video game characters can wait.

@ZehalZ cuz nobody gives a fuck, give us the new shit lmao. Plus that arc was semi long. The others they're doing are a lot shorter.

i mean i think this is the correct move

@Spidey007129158 If anything, it needs the same episode count or a smidge higher but with more story packed in. I hope they're using this remake to the fullest and not just improving the animation.

Nothing confirmed, Just my prediction.. I think Goku Black Saga will be trimmed to 15–18 episodes (from 30), while the Tournament of Power saga (including recruitment + ToP arc) will be about 30 episodes, down from 55. Overall DBS S1 would be 65-70 Episodes ??

@ChiChi_Verse Goku isn't stupid or any idiot like at all, he's just goofy and wasn't brought up in normal society. Super dialed that up to 11 and made him a blatant idiot.

How so many people would assume Goku wouldn't be able to remember any of that nowadays Memes TFS and even super have not been kind to him over the years 🙄

@BluenessBlues @4the4th195075 @RobieArt Several characters in Dragon Ball have magic; they should have given him more of a backstory than just being an evil wizard who wants to destroy everything. But the biggest asspulls were Broly and Beast Gohan, Broly's power took a large part of my enjoyment out of the movie.

@4the4th195075 @RobieArt Not really. Beerus’ strength makes sense, and a villain who scales above a Kai was established in Z with the sealing-in-Z-sword line. Frieza was an asspull, yeah. Zamasu makes sense. He’s just future Goku AND fused. Jiren is a different universe, so makes sense. Moro is magic.

The fact that people interpreted this as a hint for a sequel instead of just a funny gag from Toriyama speaks volumes about the average IQ of a Dragon Ball fan

@Notascholar1 @Tmc0610 Good points

@Tmc0610 Gotta disagree. Toei has great animation and a great team but it takes more than that to make a great show. Mappa realizes that authors can make mistakes and actively try to fix them to give you a better story. It fixed some of the problems in JJK, AOT and chainsawman.

As good as Mappa is, Toei could be far and away the best studio in the industry if they had pacing like this for all of their stuff.

@SNKKRT @Osamaos35076146 @gogeta99885 How was Toriyama forced?

@Osamaos35076146 @gogeta99885 تحول جديد لغوهان وبيكولو في سوبر هيرو كانت من اقتراحه، تورياما مجبور ولا يستطيع أن يقول لا، ايضا تكرار قصص الزد مثل فيلم برولي وسوبر هيرو كلها كانت منه زد على ذلك تورياما توفى ولن يكون مشرفا على هوسه بالتحولات الجديدة

من المحزن انه لم يحصل على حقوق المانغا 🥲

@TyzTheSaiyan That’s an adaption of the Resurrection of F movie, which is a “Z” movie.

But i thought yall said modern goku wasnt serious when he arrived to battle?

@EpikEpikson That was already confirmed, was it not?

Totally Not Mark confirms that DBS Beerus will be 6 episodes, down from 14 episodes from the original anime, making it a total run time of 2 hours (not including the OP, ED or recap) Considering how RoF is also a retelling of the film, it’s probably the same number of episodes

@M_A_N_ofLetters @polko258721 @truegenderkissr @SHINTAB_44 @ShadowDaddy82 It's their Ki

@polko258721 @truegenderkissr @SHINTAB_44 @ShadowDaddy82 No he doesn't. He just says it's a nice sword. Trunks later affirms it's the sword that killed Frieza to Goku. You're lying. hot.planeptune.us/manga/Dragon-B… hot.planeptune.us/manga/Dragon-B… King Cold literally says the edge of the sword allowed him to beat Frieza. Try again.

“Energy blasts don’t scale to physical capabilities” holy larp

@_OneRule_ @2X24_B @TeeHallums He isn’t, but I guess the wording comes off as too articulate, though it sounds fine to me. There was one moment in the dub of the Battle of Gods movie where Goku said something that felt a bit too academic, or like he shouldn’t have known that word.

@2X24_B @TeeHallums Goku actually isn’t an idiot tho lol.

Which dub do you think did a better job at adapting its source material? I'm always surprised when I remember the Z dub added an entire speech. #DubAudit

@xelyuss @dbgrandtour_ Anime studios are notoriously bad at business, and Toei is no exception (and not really a great studio either, in my opinion, but I guess they're improving). However, they were fortunate enough to secure adaptation rights to the Dragon Ball and One Piece IPs.

@dbgrandtour_ i hate how they think that dumbing down everything about Goku and the original Dragon Ball will make Super more pleasing for children

ANALYSE : POURQUOI le Film Battle of Gods comprend mieux Goku que DBS ? Jvais faire simple et me concentrer uniquement sur la scène finale du combat : Dans le film Goku accepte sa défaite, il abandonne et discute avec Beerus puis s'effondre de fatigue, conclusion : "Beerus est super fort, c’était incroyable d’avoir pu aller jusque-là" Goku n’est pas humilié par l’existence de plus grand que lui, il a touché quelque chose qui le dépasse, et ça lui suffit pour sourire. Beerus reconnaît la grandeur de l'homme contre qui il s'est battu et lui tient la main pour redescendre sur Terre, rien que d'écrire ça j'ai des frissons sah la scène est tellement belle Dans DBS c'est tout l'inverse, il dit : "Ferme la, t'auras beau être une divinité, c'est pas à toi de décider les limites d'un mortel" C'est clairement moins poétique, moins symbolique, ça sonne "esprit shonen" certes mais pour un Goku post Saga Buu, c'est vulgaire, c'est banal, pas du tout élégant venant de la part d'un expert en arts martiaux, d'un homme qui a déjà reconnu qu’il ne pouvait pas battre Buu seul et qui a demandé l'aide de tout le monde pour y arriver. Il avait donc déjà intégré l'idée de limite (depuis l'arc Cell) donc le voir refuser ce principe face à Beerus dénature le personnage, on passe d’un combattant lucide à un héros banal de shonen qui refuse simplement de voir qu'il a pas le niveau D'ailleurs, Beerus ici le laisse s'effondrer de fatigue sans lui tenir la main, il y'a 0 échange, 0 conclusion émotionnelle, comme si le combat s'était terminé sur une humiliation, Beerus s'est amusé mais sans plus, il a eu son combat et maintenant il veut aller dormir, Goku a découvert un nouveau palier de puissance, et c'est tout ça s'arrête là Alors oui, le but dans les 2 versions est de prouver à Beerus quelque chose afin qu'il ne détruise pas la Terre, mais l'exécution est TOTALEMENT différente, dans DBS il tombe KO sans jamais reconnaître qu'il est effectivement inférieur au Hakaishin, tandis que dans le film, il admet sa défaite et sourit, il discute avec Beerus, rit, et s'effondre, il a perdu mais c'était une expérience incroyable La cerise sur le gâteau c'est qu'à la fin du film, il y a même une forme de reconnaissance ENORME de la part de Whis parce qu'il avait proposé à Goku le titre de Hakaishin après la mort de Beerus. Dans DBS, il le remercie "d'avoir joué avec le Seigneur Beerus." Il reconnaît donc sa puissance et son esprit combatif qui ont divertit Beerus, mais ne reconnaît pas assez la grandeur de L'HOMME en lui-même, y'a une nuance énorme entre les 2 versions Pour conclure, DBS propose un Goku qui se rapproche plus d'un héros de shonen basique, tandis que le film propre une version plus mature, plus lucide et donc plus fidèle au Goku avec lequel on a grandi Merci d'avoir lu