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@Kenneth604BC @BenSteiner00 No spine since Qatar squad only had 2 players from Caps academy. Only 2 BC-born but both didn't go to Caps academy. 86 squad had 60% BC-born with no academy. CANWNT has also seen BC players falloff but to a lesser degree. Youth women sides have seen a larger dropoff.
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Kenneth Dennis@Kenneth604BC·
Steiner's right. The Whitecaps academy isn't just developing players — it's developing the spine of #CanMNT and #CanWNT. Toronto FC tonight: out of the Voyageurs Cup at the hands of a CPL side, in front of a half-empty BMO. Vancouver: 8-1-1, sold out, producing national team talent at every level. Move the wrong club, lose the right pipeline. #SaveTheCaps #VWFC
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Ben Steiner@BenSteiner00·
Toronto FC’s young players failed again tonight against Atlético Ottawa. If the Whitecaps relocate, there goes the much more productive academy for #CanMNT — and potentially #CanWNT talent. TFC, MTL, and all CPL clubs simply don’t have that structure that produces top players.
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@SharonNadeem @TheAthletic The companion stadium guide articles are more comprehensive. Touristy guide coverage is just one sleeve of the World Cup coverage provided by The Athletic. Though, sponsored by StubHub.
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Sharon Nadeem@SharonNadeem·
@FightingStripes @TheAthletic Not saying they don’t. It’s a weird dynamic to promote an event that you are investigating and raises some questions on potential conflicts of interest.
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Sharon Nadeem@SharonNadeem·
I’m kinda new to the sports and politics beat but is it weird that @TheAthletic, which the NYT bought and basically replaced its sports investigative team is running ads for the very events that it’s supposed to look into?
The Athletic | Football@TheAthleticFC

With outstanding natural beauty, world-class entertainment options and superb fine dining, Vancouver has everything a fan could need. BC Place will host seven games at this summer's World Cup, including two for Canada. Brought to you by @CapitalOne

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@n2henry Time not an issue. Cord cutting & less hours watching trad tv means not enough viewers/ad $ to warrant paying to fill more time. TSN still shows 42 Cdn MLS team games & 80+ overall. Way more than even hard cores ever watch.
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Richard Da Earl@n2henry·
I want to state upfront that this is a great deal for WNBA and the TEMPO re: TSN and i will definitely be watching. But this is also a downstream impact of the really bad deal MLS signed with Apple. TSN loss of all three MLS teams from there schedule opened up a ton of time
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@__LFF__ @AsaRehman WJ happened as the heydays of cable tv got started. Growth mode = big budget/risk taking. Today, TSN has 50% less subs, ad $ gone online & majority of u35 don't watch trad tv. Secular decline mode means Rogers just offered buyout to 50% of staff & Bell laid off 8-9k in 5 yrs.
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Legacy Futebol Fan@__LFF__·
@AsaRehman Im old enough to remember when World Junior Hockey Championships were a nothing burger until TSN decided it wasnt We can't ignore the influence our national broadcasters can have, when they decide to Even being neutral rather than hostile at the moment would make a difference
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Legacy Futebol Fan@__LFF__·
1/2 Many peeps mad at this guy.... He's incredibly wrong about BC/VAN not being a soccer hub (one of the best in 🇨🇦). BUT he's right about not being big enough for MLS. #SaveTheCaps #VWFC
Wyatt Claypool@wyatt_claypool

There are a lot of guys who never went to a single Whitecaps game mad at me for pointing out BC is not a big soccer hub. At least not for MLS soccer. Whitecaps are the lowest earning MLS team. Maybe they are an amazing team and a lot of fun to watch but their fans have not been putting their dollars toward the team. Maybe the Whitecaps can be convinced to stay but people calling for the government to do something are missing the point. Atlanta wasn't able to support a hockey team.

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@AlNickel1 @ravira Nobody willing to build $200m+ stadium with heated grass pitch. Nobody willing to pay $500m expansion fee. NASL only survived 1 yr in Calgary.
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Al Nickel@AlNickel1·
@ravira A city like Calgary could easily support an MLS team. Two million in the metro area. Instead we have a CSL team in a 5000 seat stadium. Makes no sense to me why MLS doesn’t look at some Canadian cities. The weather might be an issue but Calgary gets Chinooks.
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Ravi@ravira·
MLS, unlike the old NASL, seems like a league of posers to me. The NASL was unabashedly North American while the MLS tries to be British. Bring back the old nicknames the NASL had and let's talk about fields, uniforms, and shutouts instead of pitches, kits, and clean sheets.
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@Kenneth604BC Attendance not a top 5 factor in Caps moving. But ticket prices in bottom 5 of MLS is an issue. Key issue is Caps aren't worth US$500m without a stadium. And MLS won't approve sale below $500m as it will mean a drop in expansion fees from what San Diego paid.
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Kenneth Dennis@Kenneth604BC·
LA Galaxy v @WhitecapsFC. Kickoff. Plenty of empty seats again. Earlier today: Toronto FC drew 5,000 to a 45,000-seat BMO Field. Vancouver: near sellouts every weekend, 8-1-0 on the pitch. And @MLS thinks Vancouver is the relocation candidate? Read the room, @DonGarber. #SaveTheCaps #VWFC
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IT’STIME2022@KickRocksGLG·
@Kenneth604BC @WhitecapsFC @MLS @dongarber For starters there was 19k+ yesterday at BMO. Secondly using the temporary seating to back your point is embarrassing. Thirdly MLSE OWNS THE STADIUM while the Whitecaps haves to rent BC Place when they play. It’s not about the record it’s about the money to continue operation
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@ian__403 @TheFlightMike Not a casual if you want watch >50% of Raptors games. With SN losing money, Rogers doesn't want to pay for all Raptors games. Next season, some Raptors games will also be on Amazon Prime.
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Ian__403@ian__403·
@TheFlightMike Another issue is how broadcast rights are managed. I’m a casual Toronto Raptors fan, their games are split between BellMedia TSN & Rogers Sportsnet. People like me who subscribe to only one of these services miss half of the Raptors’ games.
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FlightMike (Mikerophone)@TheFlightMike·
One of the largest reasons the NBA is seeing a decline in viewership is this: They simply don’t respect the audiences time. They’re the only major sports league to begin a game 15-20 minutes after advertised…
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@RomainSchue Then 90% of those FIFA profits are disbursed to 211 members/6 confeds as per being a non-profit. Qatar World Cup produced $18.4m for Canada Soccer via FIFA/Concacaf grants. Last yr, Canada Soccer got $1.5m in prize monies & $5.1m in FIFA/Concacaf grants.
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Romain Schué
Romain Schué@RomainSchue·
@fourTurns L’argent gagné par la FIFA ne va pas aux fédérations directement. La FIFA verse une certaine somme aux équipes nationales, particulièrement pour couvrir leurs dépenses durant la compétition. Cela est mentionné dans les ententes: tous les profits sont conservés par la FIFA.
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Romain Schué@RomainSchue·
Le VP de la FIFA, qui est Canadien, justifie les prix de la Coupe du monde 2026 en parlant du « marché ». Pourtant, même si la NBA, la LNH ou la MLB peuvent être onéreuses, il ne faut pas payer 2000$ par personne pour une place (comme c’est le cas à Toronto)
TSN@TSN_Sports

FIFA VP Victor Montagliani joins #ParkTheBus to address the high #FIFAWorldCup ticket prices. Thoughts on the decision?

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@iamkennethchan Columbus-style means city/state took MLS to court under Mondell Law (in effect due to Browns leaving). Ligitation gave time to find new owners who paid expansion fee & built a new stadium.
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@Ghhkkjds @richarddeitsch Most of Fox's PxP are British. Weak links are their former American players as analysts and Strong/JP Dellacamera on PxP.
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@krisaug5 Nothing to talk about. It will still exist since it's pay to play. Caps just provide their branding, training curriculum & some coaching support. Caps get basically free feeder system since they can pluck players for their academy but don't pay solidarity payments.
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Krisaug5@krisaug5·
One thing no one's talking about is how much Canadian soccer could lose with the possible Whitecaps relocation. The Caps academy is ~4800 players in 12 centres in 7 provinces. Lose that system and there's a good chance you lose the next Alphonso Davies or Ali Ahmed #SaveTheCaps
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@10iceman40 @DomSramaty Underperformer. 60% of the 86 World Cup were BC-born. Only 2 on Qatar squad. 4 came via Caps academy. Includes 1 who left for TFC academy after being crtical of Caps. Likely only Davies on 26 squad will have come via Caps academy.
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Iceman@10iceman40·
@DomSramaty This is a major part of Canadas football development. We are one of, if not the best academy in Canada. Major major blow to the pipeline if the club gets ripped from Vancouver and loses it soul.
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Dominic Šramaty@DomSramaty·
Approximately 4800 youth are enrolled in the Whitecaps academy system annually, and nearly 35,000 kids participate in camps and other grassroots initiatives… What’s going to happen to these programs if the Caps just leave? This is about more than just the pro club.
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@DhaliwalSports He's very private. Kerfoot hasn't anything publicly about Caps or his 20 yrs funding Canada Soccer ex for 2-3 written statements.
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Rick Dhaliwal@DhaliwalSports·
Does this Whitecaps owner know he is allowed to talk and express his feelings about how much he wants to keep his team in Vancouver and how much this city means to him and his team. Nothing but silence from Whitecaps ownership and that's pathetic.
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@nogoodboyo_yvr Telus will then be like Rogers today offering buyouts to 10k employees after overspending buying Shaw & Bell's share of MLSE. And/or Telus will need to cut their high dividend which knockdown the stock even more.
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Nogoodboyo@nogoodboyo_yvr·
Why won’t @TELUS step up to buy the club? They have the money and would be celebrated as community heroes for decades to come. International profile. Customer base explosion. They can write off losses in the down years. #VWFC #SaveTheCaps
Mike Martignago@MikeMartignago

At present time, the Caps are leaving (IMO). Nobody local stepping up… Plenty of rich bastards in the US ready to jump in with the necessary resources. Hope I’m wrong and there’s still some time for something to happen but I’m also a realist 🤷🏼‍♂️

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@USSoccerColl Not 1/3 as only 1 Caps academy player (Davies) has played for senior team in the past year. BC-born players have fallen off from 60% of 1986 World Cup squad to only 2 on Qatar squad.
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Marcus Chairez | US/SC@USSoccerColl·
This would be a win for the USMNT and a devastating blow to Canada, eliminating 33% of their top-level pipeline and the only Tier 1 professional academy on the country’s west coast.
Tom Bogert@tombogert

A special committee of MLS owners met to discuss future of the Vancouver Whitecaps, including possibility of relocation, sources tell @PaulTenorio & I Las Vegas the chief option discussed MLS has had discussions w/ a group looking to bring a team to LV nytimes.com/athletic/72337…

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@ravira Caps are in the bottom 5 of MLS in ticket prices, revenue, profit, team valuation & ownership net worth/cash flow. When leagues like MLS, WNBA & NWSL grow fast, the older ownership groups can't and/or don't want to keep up.
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@Futbo1life Canadian clubs can't make 100m+ euros over 4 yrs from Champions/Europa leagues. Don't make 40m+ euros net over 5 yrs via player transfers. Don't have same level of support from local sponsors and city.
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