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@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 i already mentioned this on this thread, if you let AI write all the plot, you are committing a terrible mistake, you should be a director of AI, not a slave of AI, I don't like the people that are slaves from their, wheter it's AI or art programs to make art.

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Lmao, this the same with im writer, yet i cant bother write the plot myself, let ai do it, so i can focus on emotion.

Let's 🗣️ get 🗣️ things 🗣️ straight 🗣️

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 conceive* sorry for my bad english

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 NO, is the bare minimum to be HUMAN, actually, the bare minimum is to concibe the idea, realizing it can be in many ways, but that's another topic.

@bernielomax @Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel where did I lie?

@mindcore53 @Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel You clearly don't understand the arguments and you're a liar as well.

AI Bros: "All you do is post "AI bad" on Twitter you're just a rage bait engagement farming grifter trying to capitalize on hate against AI Us: Hey guys this retopology tool looks like it could potentially be a good use of AI! AI Bros: NOOO WTF YOURE SUPPOSED TO SAY ITS BAD

Tats 🔮 from One-Punch Man . #tatsumaki #onepunchman #digitalart

@bernielomax @Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel nope, i'm just throwing your own arguments to yourself, but i'm glad we are progressing to a world where non-AI friendly people actually use AI to throw arguments, is a step forward for AI.

@mindcore53 @Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel So you lied to us and now you try to keep debating? Why are you ai-bros always such dishonest losers? The planet is better off if you shut up. You can't be trusted to flip a burger.

@Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel unethical AI* right?

@mindcore53 @IsThisA3DModel I didn't say I was against AI.

@JaxeThepump @IsThisA3DModel your attempt to find a middle ground has been flagged as 'too logical' and will be discarded to maintain the current state of collective rage.

@IsThisA3DModel To be fair, AI art has great a potential, mainly for brainstorming or early concept art. If you want any changes It takes seconds and some words. You can later use that art as a reference to create your own thing. Now, Ai slop is a completely different thing

@Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel it's an AI designed to agree with you on everything, you can't throw arguments from AI, specially if you are against it.

@mindcore53 @IsThisA3DModel As for sending you the information, I already shared with you what I was able to find. Don't like it or don't believe it? I don't give a f*ck. Tell it to your therapist and do your own research if you have a problem. I'm not your mom.

@Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel i mean, if you are really against AI, you may do your research to eliminate all AI from your life, but not only google is an AI you use, but you use it to throw arguments, next time do your research in official pages if you really want to defend your point.

You know Google has been replaced by AI, right? Do you know of a search engine that has access to the same amount of information that does not use AI? Also, go f*ck yourself with your bad faith arguments. No one cares that you have a chip on your shoulder and just want to watch the world burn.

@Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel you know you just what wasted 10 gallons of water on that consultation to the AI right? send me how this tool officially have an opt-in method to train their AI

Actually no. It's not trained on stolen data, for a change. It works with properly licensed datasets, which would also mean the artists who contribute stock get some sort of compensation, and their stock isn't used without their consent. This would be a huge game changer for artists who wanted to try AI tools, but never wanted to steal from other artists.

@TheMG3D i made the background with AI but the character i painted it on photoshop, do you mind?

Artists show me your art!

@Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel probably that retopology tool is trained by lot of 3D renders stolen from real artists, but for some reason that doesn't matter anymore.

I haven't seen the retopology tool. What is it? And nuance is fine. This stuff is new to all of us. Artists did want AI art tools. We just didn't want unethical tools that would steal identities and livelihoods, devalue art, and kill art jobs. Open to hearing about new developments.

@IsThisA3DModel @Parallaxperspec my dude, you can use midjourney to give you composition ideas and then doing it "by hand" and you heavily critique genAI tools because "it steals from artists" but being selective for the AI you do like is hypocritical.

Not angry! And we've explained multiple times. Niche tools that technically aid artists in their specific process in favor of the work they're aiming to create, is not the same as tools that do the entire creative process for them and output results that are a blender of other people's work

@BJ_Beyond @alexutopia If you are above the line of quality of AI, you won't see AI as rewarding as someone below that line, that's the reason

@alexutopia Yes, I agree, but famous artists (not emerging artists) usually don’t go to AI.

AI is exposing a lot of artists. Because it reveals how many were surviving on friction, scarcity, and gatekeeping. Real artists were never loyal to the process. Only people with no vision are.

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 can you get better?

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Ai should be a tool, yet we use it to replace ourselves because some just cant try to get better

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 did you read what i said? lol

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 They are 2 completely different things

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 we are going in circles, if you can't understand that AI can't do anything by itself, it always need HUMAN input to give you something, and that HUMAN input is all you need to call it your own, we can't discuss this issue.

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Art for something you didnt made it yourself , for something, that you know you didnt make, calling it art and calling yourself an artist?

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 not exactly the same, just a different medium, different tools, different workflows, but 'cuz you haven't used AI to make something decent, you can't understand it, you really look like those old people that bashed digital art and 3D for years.

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Lmao you are talking like pickup a pen and draw is the same with i give you idea

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 I think there's a misunderstanding, I don't use AI for my drawings, I defend the right of people to use AI to create art, explain me what's your point because i don't get it.

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Is it because it is much ezr to call it art rather than improve your self?